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The Day After

Créé par: KingExLeafs
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 13 mai 2023
Publié: 13 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
24 250 000 $
2920 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
31 750 000 $
42 550 000 $
21 250 000 $
45 500 000 $
45 500 000 $
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1.
TOR
  1. Byfield, Quinton
  2. Clarke, Brandt
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
2.
TOR
  1. Cooley, Logan [Liste de réserve]
  2. Crouse, Lawson
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
ARI
  1. Marner, Mitchell
  2. Murray, Matt
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
3.
TOR
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
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2482 500 000 $69 565 700 $0 $3 500 000 $12 934 300 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
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NMC
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
925 000 $925 000 $
C
RFA - 3
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4 300 000 $4 300 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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796 667 $796 667 $
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RFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AG, C
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
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UFA - 7
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
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UFA - 1
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
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762 500 $762 500 $
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13 mai 2023 à 12 h 35
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No. I'm not giving up a 1st for a defenseman who's scared of being hit.
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13 mai 2023 à 12 h 36
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I respect the rebuilding, but those return are way too high.
13 mai 2023 à 12 h 39
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I respect the rebuilding, but those return are way too high.


It's tough to gauge the value of a 60 goal Hart trophy winner and a back-to-back first team right winger. It'll probably won't be that high, but they should get back multiple assets.
13 mai 2023 à 12 h 39
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Kings can't afford Matthews. They would also probably rather ride out Clarke and Byfield.
Arizona isn't trading Cooley, Crouse or that Ottawa 1st, even for Marner.
Detroit says no thanks. I would do a second for Liljegren but not a first.
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13 mai 2023 à 12 h 40
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It's tough to gauge the value of a 60 goal Hart trophy winner and a back-to-back first team right winger. It'll probably won't be that high, but they should get back multiple assets.


I think it's more about finding the right team and right situation. Those contacts are tough for contending teams to take on and rebuilding teams won't want to part with high end young assets. I honestly don't see a trade scenario that Toronto necessarily wins but it could be out there.
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13 mai 2023 à 12 h 41
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No. I'm not giving up a 1st for a defenseman who's scared of being hit.


Liljegren isn't scared of being hit, he's just not a physical defenceman, he does a lot of things well. The Leafs shattered his confidence towards the end by bringing in a couple of vets but earlier in the season he was arguably one of their best defencemen.
13 mai 2023 à 12 h 43
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Liljegren isn't scared of being hit, he's just not a physical defenceman, he does a lot of things well. The Leafs shattered his confidence towards the end by bringing in a couple of vets but earlier in the season he was arguably one of their best defencemen.


I'll say this. Replacing Liljegren for Holl was idiotic.
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13 mai 2023 à 12 h 45
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Wings definitely pass,

So do the other 2
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13 mai 2023 à 12 h 50
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It's tough to gauge the value of a 60 goal Hart trophy winner and a back-to-back first team right winger. It'll probably won't be that high, but they should get back multiple assets.


Easy,

Taylor Hall was a MVP soon to be UFA 50% retained and got a 1st, a 3rd, and an A prospect. You won't get more than that for Matthews without retained salary or extention (which wont happen).

Eichel got a 1st, an A prospect and a good middle 6 roster player with term. That's the return for Marner.
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13 mai 2023 à 13 h 1
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Easy,

Taylor Hall was a MVP soon to be UFA 50% retained and got a 1st, a 3rd, and an A prospect. You won't get more than that for Matthews without retained salary or extention (which wont happen).

Eichel got a 1st, an A prospect and a good middle 6 roster player with term. That's the return for Marner.


Matthews isn't the equivalent of Hall. He'll get more than Eichel got. As for Marner, it depends on the team because he has two years left and he won't demand the 15 million that Matthews is demanding so his value might be higher.
13 mai 2023 à 13 h 4
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Matthews isn't the equivalent of Hall. He'll get more than Eichel got. As for Marner, it depends on the team because he has two years left and he won't demand the 15 million that Matthews is demanding so his value might be higher.


MATTHEWS = UFA

EICHEL =/= UFA

You can trade for the best player in the world, which Auston clearly isn't, but if you can loose him for nothing in a year, the price will go down.
13 mai 2023 à 13 h 9
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MATTHEWS = UFA

EICHEL =/= UFA

You can trade for the best player in the world, which Auston clearly isn't, but if you can loose him for nothing in a year, the price will go down.


Wherever he's traded he's probably coming with an extension attached.
13 mai 2023 à 13 h 15
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Quoting: KingExLeafs
Wherever he's traded he's probably coming with an extension attached.


Pure speculation.

You got no footing to claim that the 2nd best paid player in the league would just agree to not hit the unrestricted free market and choose the city where he wants to play for most of his career.

You let the TML interests cloud your jugement.
13 mai 2023 à 13 h 32
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Pure speculation.

You got no footing to claim that the 2nd best paid player in the league would just agree to not hit the unrestricted free market and choose the city where he wants to play for most of his career.

You let the TML interests cloud your jugement.


In that scenario I think the Leafs keep him and pay him. Trading him for peanuts does them no good.
13 mai 2023 à 13 h 40
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In that scenario I think the Leafs keep him and pay him. Trading him for peanuts does them no good.


How do you know Matthews wants to stay in Toronto? He doesn't HAVE to stay. He simply has to play out his contract for 1 more season. Then he's a UFA and chooses his own destination.
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13 mai 2023 à 13 h 41
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How do you know Matthews wants to stay in Toronto? He doesn't HAVE to stay. He simply has to play out his contract for 1 more season. Then he's a UFA and chooses his own destination.


Money talks
13 mai 2023 à 13 h 43
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Money talks


You don't really believe the Leafs are the only team willing to give Matthews league max, do you?
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13 mai 2023 à 13 h 58
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You don't really believe the Leafs are the only team willing to give Matthews league max, do you?


They can give him more term I think
13 mai 2023 à 15 h 10
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In that scenario I think the Leafs keep him and pay him. Trading him for peanuts does them no good.


How can you watch him year after year, giving a million interviews and not know he wants to get the f... out of Toronto?
13 mai 2023 à 15 h 15
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They can give him more term I think


He didn't want to sign more than 5 years with you guys, not a single UFA year, and now you think you'll convince him to sign for 8 when he can finally hit free agency?!?! I mean, wake up already dude. It's over.

Look at what happenned with Tkachuk, that's your future.
13 mai 2023 à 15 h 25
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He didn't want to sign more than 5 years with you guys, not a single UFA year, and now you think you'll convince him to sign for 8 when he can finally hit free agency?!?! I mean, wake up already dude. It's over.

Look at what happenned with Tkachuk, that's your future.


I think he'll sign short term, maybe three years, at a ridiculously high number.
13 mai 2023 à 15 h 31
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I think he'll sign short term, maybe three years, at a ridiculously high number.


Just let it go dude. You can't buy someone's love lol.

You are at the negociation's stage of grief, but he's gone for good after next season, probably making as much money in a state with less taxes.
13 mai 2023 à 15 h 39
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Just let it go dude. You can't buy someone's love lol.

You are at the negociation's stage of grief, but he's gone for good after next season, probably making as much money in a state with less taxes.


If it comes down to money rather than location then the leafs will find a way to keep him. That's not my preferred option. I think he should be traded, preferably with an extension attached.

But we'll see.
13 mai 2023 à 15 h 53
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If it comes down to money rather than location then the leafs will find a way to keep him. That's not my preferred option. I think he should be traded, preferably with an extension attached.

But we'll see.


Don't worry. You'll get McDavid in a few years.
 
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