Why would the pens move their best dmen for a injury prone goalie who is a pending UFA at that and a 3rd liner, I know you took it from another ACGM but yikes

Pens have no interest in Blackwood.

They might have interest in Sharangovich but not at the cost of Petterson

No. No interest in blackwood, no interest in trading Petterrsson, Sharangovich maybe in a diff deal though.

Guy in the link musta been shmokin the reefer when he did that ACGM

What would you offer hypothetical for Pettersson to NJ

Would need a top 4 Left shot dmen back since if Petterson is moved we are left with an unproven Ty Smith and POJ. I don't really think there is a world in which we move him

I actually think the Pens would want a top 6 winger or 2 good prospects.
Hughes, Casey, Nemec, Gritsuyk. Pick 2.

i’m asking for Marcus pettersson, not connor mcdavid

devils literally traded a 3rd and ty smith for marino last offseason.

you’re crazy if you think you’ll get any of those prospects, let alone two

Problem with that is after Petterson the left side is meh so only way Petterson would be moved is if we signed 1-2 LD to replace him which I doubt we do. Pens are still in win now mode as long as the core 3 are producing

Connor McDavid would require all of those guys and much much more.

You're asking for a 27yo top 4 defenseman on a good contract for 2 years, from a team that doesn't want to trade him. It would take an overpay. A fair deal would be one of those names and a 3rd or 2nd.

Prospects aren't really worth that much because at the end of the day, you're hoping a guy like Hughes turns out to be as good as Petterson. Well you're probably hoping for more, but prospects flame out. They are a risk. Established players are much less of a risk.

The FA the Pens would sign would be a step down but it would be a move for the future.

That’s a terrible argument

just because a player is already established doesn’t mean they have more value

Luke Hughes is gonna be better than Pettersson. i’ll be willing to bet a large amount of money. it’s stupid to trade a 19 year old, former top 5 pick, for a 27 YO dman.

Take off those biased black and yellow glasses

It's not biased to look at facts.

Let's look at the defenseman chosen 3, 4 or 5 from 2007 to 2017

2007: Hickey and Alzner
Both played solid hockey for 7-8 seasons. Pettersson's floor.

2008: Bogosian, Pietrangelo, Schenn
Pietriangelo is the only one better than Pett here.

2009: None in 3-5

2010: Gudbranson
Bounced around a lot. Better recently. Again, equivalent to Pett now but towards the end of his career.

2011: Adam Larsson
Probably equivalent to Petterson as a shut down defenseman. Gets a bad rap for the Hall trade. Not his fault.

2012: Griffin Reinhard and Morgan Rielly
Talk about night and day. Wow.

2013: Seth Jones
There is a guy you can argue has been better than Pettersson.

2014: None

2015: Noah Hanifin
Arguably better than Pettersson.

2016: Olli Juolevi
Not yet established if he ever will be.

2017: Cale Makar
Best of the bunch.

So in that time frame we have 5 players better than Pettersson, 1 or 2 equivalent to Petterson at his current age, and 6 or 7 who were worse than Pettersson.

By that logic, around 39% of guys drafted in that range in that time period were better.

Looking at top ten picks from 2007 to 2014
30 All Stars
18 Current NHL regulars
32 Non-Regulars / Out of the NHL (most fell out by 5 years)

So in an 7 year span 48 / 70 players drafted in the top 10 are still in the NHL. That's 68%. I would consider Pettersson to be not quite All Star worthy so that's 30 / 70 that are better than Pettersson or 43%.

So is Hughes in that 39 - 43%? Or is he in the other half?

Prospects are volatile. And a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Chances are Hughes will be around what Pettersson currently is. He could be Makar. He could be Reinhard. There is more risk to the team trading the established player, so it will take two prospects to mitigate the risk.

But you can disagree. That is your right. But don't assume I am biased. I rely on facts and logic.