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Créé par: JarvisforSelke
Équipe: 2023-24 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 7 mai 2023
Publié: 7 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
24 000 000 $
23 000 000 $
22 500 000 $
23 000 000 $
2775 000 $
2775 000 $
24 500 000 $
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1.
CAR
  1. Lafrenière, Alexis [Droits de RFA]
NYR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
2.
ARI
  1. Murray, Blake
  2. Pashin, Alexander
  3. Teräväinen, Teuvo
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
  6. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
  7. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  8. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
Might be too much or too little... Just kind of guessing
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $79 679 417 $450 000 $500 000 $2 820 583 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 1
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7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 6
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7 150 000 $7 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
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4 820 000 $4 820 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AD
RFA - 1
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
C, AG
UFA
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762 500 $762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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7 mai 2023 à 21 h 48
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Pass on Keller. The Canes need an additional top six forward. Moving out Teravainen to bring in someone that is at best lateral is not a good idea.

That's just not enough for Lafreniere
7 mai 2023 à 21 h 52
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Not close on Laf
7 mai 2023 à 21 h 53
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Not close on Laf


What do u think is an appropriate return on Laf?
7 mai 2023 à 21 h 55
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Pass on Keller. The Canes need an additional top six forward. Moving out Teravainen to bring in someone that is at best lateral is not a good idea.

That's just not enough for Lafreniere


Yeah, probably not enough on Laf. But I think that Turbo hasn't really produced enough to justify his $5.4m price tag and Clayton Keller is much more market value.
7 mai 2023 à 21 h 56
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What do u think is an appropriate return on Laf?


It’s moot.. NYR aren’t moving him so it would need to be a price you say NO to and most would laugh at
7 mai 2023 à 21 h 58
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What do u think is an appropriate return on Laf?


Would you have accepted this package for Necas ?
7 mai 2023 à 21 h 59
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It’s moot.. NYR aren’t moving him so it would need to be a price you say NO to and most would laugh at


I mean Lafreniere seems like he needs a change of scenery kind of like KK did from Montreal.
7 mai 2023 à 22 h 3
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Would you have accepted this package for Necas ?


Necas is not Lafreniere. Last year tbh I probably would've. There are a few differences between Necas's and Lafreniere's situations. The Hurricanes have proven recently that they are able to develop talent very well in a way that the New York Rangers haven't proven outside of Miller.
7 mai 2023 à 22 h 15
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Yeah, probably not enough on Laf. But I think that Turbo hasn't really produced enough to justify his $5.4m price tag and Clayton Keller is much more market value.


Teuvo's still one of the best defensive forwards in the NHL. Not to mention, he's paid 5.4 million. When he was scoring 70 points, that contract was larceny. He's making about market value. If you're trying to argue he's a cap dump, which is what you are implying saying he hasn't produced enough to justify it, you are flat-out wrong.
7 mai 2023 à 22 h 16
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Quoting: NYR1983
It’s moot.. NYR aren’t moving him so it would need to be a price you say NO to and most would laugh at


Not exactly moot....there is a price for LaF- just light years away from the cabbage offered here.
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7 mai 2023 à 22 h 20
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Not exactly moot....there is a price for LaF- just light years away from the cabbage offered here.


Agree to disagree
7 mai 2023 à 22 h 22
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Necas is not Lafreniere. Last year tbh I probably would've. There are a few differences between Necas's and Lafreniere's situations. The Hurricanes have proven recently that they are able to develop talent very well in a way that the New York Rangers haven't proven outside of Miller.


Most canes fans on here would not have moved Necas for this package. Unfortunately the pipe dream of players walking into the N and being élite instantly is far fetched. How long did it take Mackinnon to get 100 points. His first 4 seasons were piss poor considering he was get more time and better deployment. Of the recent forwards that NYR agave drafted and failed on(lias anderson, kravtsov). Lias was always a head case and a gamble which unfortunately he got in his own way of developing. Kravs was rank by most as a 3rd round pick and NYR jumped on him after he had a hot stretch in the K(terrible gamble). Chytil, Kakko, Laf, othmann are all looking great(but it takes time like Necas and Mackinnon did). You should try doing a little exercise, make a chart of 30 awesome players that were high picks(excluding the top10’S of the league) check out their points/60 5v5 as see how they all stack up. Take a look at what season they took off. Laf hasn’t even got 3 full seasons in yet, he’s a kid.
7 mai 2023 à 22 h 23
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Not exactly moot....there is a price for LaF- just light years away from the cabbage offered here.


It’s moot because no one will pay it, NYR won’t accept less.
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7 mai 2023 à 22 h 25
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Teuvo's still one of the best defensive forwards in the NHL. Not to mention, he's paid 5.4 million. When he was scoring 70 points, that contract was larceny. He's making about market value. If you're trying to argue he's a cap dump, which is what you are implying saying he hasn't produced enough to justify it, you are flat-out wrong.


I'm not arguing a cap dump... I'm just saying that we need more scoring from the Top 6 and Tuevo's not doing it for us.... Maybe it's just a fluke year and I'm just overreacting about the lack of scoring from our top six.
7 mai 2023 à 22 h 26
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Most canes fans on here would not have moved Necas for this package. Unfortunately the pipe dream of players walking into the N and being élite instantly is far fetched. How long did it take Mackinnon to get 100 points. His first 4 seasons were piss poor considering he was get more time and better deployment. Of the recent forwards that NYR agave drafted and failed on(lias anderson, kravtsov). Lias was always a head case and a gamble which unfortunately he got in his own way of developing. Kravs was rank by most as a 3rd round pick and NYR jumped on him after he had a hot stretch in the K(terrible gamble). Chytil, Kakko, Laf, othmann are all looking great(but it takes time like Necas and Mackinnon did). You should try doing a little exercise, make a chart of 30 awesome players that were high picks(excluding the top10’S of the league) check out their points/60 5v5 as see how they all stack up. Take a look at what season they took off. Laf hasn’t even got 3 full seasons in yet, he’s a kid.


I'm just not sure that Rangers management will be as patient as you are. It's New York and people demand results right away or else your deemed a failure.
7 mai 2023 à 22 h 31
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Quoting: seanrushton
Agree to disagree


Fine ... but please explain how a former #1OA is worth 3 picks- a 3rd,4th, and 5th in next year's draft. Each of those picks is has a low probability of amounting to anything in the NHL- let alone making it at all. For all the "disappointment" regarding Laf....while he may or may not achieve what other #1's have- he is an NHL player. So to trade him for three picks- each of which is a long shot for a cup of coffee in the NHL- I'm sorry, but I'll pass.
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7 mai 2023 à 22 h 33
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I'm just not sure that Rangers management will be as patient as you are. It's New York and people demand results right away or else your deemed a failure.


I think management knows they aren’t giving them enough opportunity to pad the stats. Might even be intentional to support the bridge deals. I have no idea but they are smart enough to not expect the world from 3 kids on a 3rd line and 2nd pp for 30 seconds if they are even on it.
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7 mai 2023 à 22 h 34
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Drury's assistant hangs up on you with that offer. Not even close to being close.
7 mai 2023 à 23 h 1
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I'm not arguing a cap dump... I'm just saying that we need more scoring from the Top 6 and Tuevo's not doing it for us.... Maybe it's just a fluke year and I'm just overreacting about the lack of scoring from our top six.


What? Teuvo had 37 points in 68 games. Roughly a 45 point pace over 82 games, somewhere between 45 and 50. That's absolutely fine for Teravainen... stop it.
 
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