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Créé par: StephL05
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 30 avr. 2023
Publié: 30 avr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 850 000 $
21 000 000 $
88 250 000 $
21 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
OTT
  1. Berggren, Jonatan
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
2.
PHI
  1. Joseph, Mathieu
  2. Sokolov, Egor [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (TBL)
3.
OTT
  1. Gibson, John (1 800 000 $ retained)
ANA
  1. Bernard-Docker, Jacob [Droits de RFA]
  2. Mandolese, Kevin [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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Logo de NSH
2024
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Logo de OTT
2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $83 467 380 $0 $1 850 000 $32 620 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 205 714 $8 205 714 $
AG
UFA - 5
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8 350 000 $8 350 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
7 950 000 $7 950 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
838 333 $838 333 $
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
835 000 $835 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
762 500 $762 500 $
AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
916 667 $916 667 $
DG
RFA - 2

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30 avr. 2023 à 8 h 33
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No
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30 avr. 2023 à 8 h 37
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John Gibson says no

Pat Verbeek says no

Insanity that you’re asking for retention on top of Gibson with that horrid return
30 avr. 2023 à 8 h 37
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
No


Lol that's okay I don't care where the cat goes but if it's with an extension a first, 2/3rd round pick and a forward with potential... preferably top 9 ready is coming back
30 avr. 2023 à 8 h 38
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
John Gibson says no

Pat Verbeek says no

Insanity that you’re asking for retention on top of Gibson with that horrid return


Has his value not plummeted over the last few years and he has lots of term to boot I can't see him fetching a whole lot
30 avr. 2023 à 8 h 39
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Lol that's okay I don't care where the cat goes but if it's with an extension a first, 2/3rd round pick and a forward with potential... preferably top 9 ready is coming back


8-9 mil AAV for 27 goals. Good luck with that.
30 avr. 2023 à 8 h 40
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Has his value not plummeted over the last few years and he has lots of term to boot I can't see him fetching a whole lot


Verbeek has repeatedly said he's not shopping Gibson. That's not enough for Konecny either.
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30 avr. 2023 à 8 h 49
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Has his value not plummeted over the last few years and he has lots of term to boot I can't see him fetching a whole lot


Well then I’m glad Verbeek said he isn’t trading him along with saying John doesn’t want to go anywhere so we’re fine wink
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30 avr. 2023 à 9 h 3
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
Verbeek has repeatedly said he's not shopping Gibson. That's not enough for Konecny either.


My favorite is when they say he doesn’t have value and stats are bad but are still trading for him — the CF Special 🤡
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30 avr. 2023 à 9 h 6
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My favorite is when they say he doesn’t have value and stats are bad but are still trading for him — the CF Special 🤡


I'm getting Bertuzzi flashbacks. He sucks. He rental. But we'll take him for a turd sandwich!
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30 avr. 2023 à 9 h 18
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I'm getting Bertuzzi flashbacks. He sucks. He rental. But we'll take him for a turd sandwich!


Yeah it’s wild and honestly happens all the time

Have you looked at his stats? He sucks! Then check the lineup and they put _____ on their 1st line
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30 avr. 2023 à 9 h 34
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
My favorite is when they say he doesn’t have value and stats are bad but are still trading for him — the CF Special 🤡


So emotional lol you realize this is a site for acgm, we're not trading for keepsies haha... also I didnr say he was no good id love to add him but that doesn't mean his value is what it use to be
30 avr. 2023 à 9 h 45
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So emotional lol you realize this is a site for acgm, we're not trading for keepsies haha... also I didnr say he was no good id love to add him but that doesn't mean his value is what it use to be


Can’t be emotional when it’s happened thousands of times my man

I know this site a lil more than you I’d say so yep I know what it is but thanks
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30 avr. 2023 à 10 h 10
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Has his value not plummeted over the last few years and he has lots of term to boot I can't see him fetching a whole lot

Then we won't be putting him on the market, because we expect him to be our starting goalie for the next four seasons, which is incidentally why you're acquiring him. What other player on your roster do you expect to play for you for the next four seasons who would only be worth that $h!t return?
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30 avr. 2023 à 10 h 23
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OTT declines DET trade, they will NEVER trade Cat to DET unless a massive overpay, and OTT will keep their best D prospect and 2nd best G prospect over a G that has sucked the last 4 years
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30 avr. 2023 à 10 h 58
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Quoting: athrin
OTT declines DET trade, they will NEVER trade Cat to DET unless a massive overpay, and OTT will keep their best D prospect and 2nd best G prospect over a G that has sucked the last 4 years


I thought it was an overpay myself too lol bit apparently gibson is still considered elite around here
30 avr. 2023 à 10 h 59
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I thought it was an overpay myself too lol bit apparently gibson is still considered elite around here


fans always think their players are untouchable or elite even when they are not.
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30 avr. 2023 à 11 h 25
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Detroit passes, Berggren isn't available for Cat.

And all Canadian teams are on John Gibsons no trade list.
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30 avr. 2023 à 11 h 37
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Quoting: StephL05
I thought it was an overpay myself too lol bit apparently gibson is still considered elite around here


God forbid someone disagrees with you. We can't have that now can we? I guess you can always cry about it.

I mean what would Ducks fans know about Gibson? They've only watched every game of his NHL career.

Disagreeing is allowed on CFACGM.
30 avr. 2023 à 11 h 40
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fans always think their players are untouchable or elite even when they are not.


Look in the mirror, Captain Hypocrite.
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30 avr. 2023 à 14 h 2
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Simply put, Ducks fans are of the opinion that Gibson is still an elite level starting goalie. We watch him play, so we know he still passes the eye test. His stats are an indictment of the team in front of him, not a sign that his abilities have diminished. Compared to league average goaltending over the past four seasons, he has only been off by a couple of percentage points each year, the majority of which he had no goal support and a once great defensive core that was decaying in front of him, and by the time he had goal support, said defensive core had been dismantled.

There is a reason he was an all-star just last year, he rolled into the all star break with the Ducks in 2nd place in the division and him rocking a 0.924 SV% on the season at that time. After the break was when it was announced the team would be selling at the TDL, and everyone lost hope, and the team plummeted to 21st in the standings.

So, knowing that he can still play at an elite level, and having VERY recent evidence to back up our belief that he will return to said level as soon as we can put a defense in front of him that can fight it's way out of a wet paper bag, we see no reason to trade him period, let alone for a flamed out former 1st round pick, another nothing prospect, and a 7th, let alone retain for four year on top of that to boot. Even if we for some reason we're feeling that charitable, Gibson would block the trade himself.

If he's "not worth much" then we are more than happy to keep him on our roster through the end of his contract, four years from now.
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30 avr. 2023 à 14 h 6
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Quoting: StephL05
I thought it was an overpay myself too lol bit apparently gibson is still considered elite around here

You should read people's comments more closely. No one is rejecting the Gibson trade because we think that Gibson is elite; we are rejecting that offer because YOU think that he's good enough to be your starting goalie for the next four seasons and if so, that's a $h!t return.
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30 avr. 2023 à 15 h 33
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
Look in the mirror, Captain Hypocrite.


biggest sens homer on the planet man
30 avr. 2023 à 17 h 34
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Yes, I wish all these trades would happen
 
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