It realistically should probably be just the picks and not the prospects but I also didn’t know about the Wild’s goalie depth before this post so it probably doesn’t matter much anyway.

Didn’t know about the Wild’s goalie depth so thanks for going a little in-depth about it I appreciate it. I also appreciate that you understand hockey and realize Hart would be Vezina caliber on a good team like the Wild. There’s too many clowns in this comment section that think they know hockey that think that Hart is some random goalie. The ask is probably too much and realistically should probably be just the picks but if they already have that kinda depth they shouldn’t even kick the tires on it. Thanks for your insight!

I don't want him. And even half retained, there's not enough cap for him. I sure as hell hope Army is smart enough not to put himself in a Vegas situation where everyone knows we're screwed and we're just going to get fleeced on every trade. Doing this trade could murder the entire offseason for the Blues.

I more so was going after gauging what you think Provy is worth without the cap situation involved but I appreciate your insight didn’t know you guys were that tight against the cap. Thanks!

Or maybe because you think he’s worth a package that’s more than Eichel got.

Eichel was coming off a major neck surgery that had never been done before, teams were scared he would never even play again so let’s not act like they are the same. A healthy prime Eichel absolutely gets traded for way more. Realistically Hart should get a 1st and a good prospect so I was greedy in the original ask for Hart but one can dream.

Okay, but you can't separate the cap situation and current roster make-up from the value. He's not going to be worth the same to every team. I'm sure you could get a 23 1st or good prospect for him half retained from somewhere, but I cannot imagine that place being STL.

I agree with you I just think as Flyers fans we have heard about Blues and Kings being linked with Provy so much in the past that it’s like the first thing we think of when it comes to a trade but seems like Kings might be better partners now than Blues.

Heard from where? Like local rumors? I don't believe the Blues were ever actually interested in him. As for the Kings, I guess it depends on whether they can re-sign Gavrikov.

Local and national over the last 2 years have both said there have been talks between Flyers and Blues about Provy but nothing ever concrete happened.

National??? I do not ever recall such a thing. Got a link?

No unfortunately I don’t have any links that are years old off the top of my head or in my notes but Friedman and Seravalli both have definitely brought it up in the past and Seravalli is very well connected in Philly being from here and is obviously one of the big national guys.

Heh. Not a fan of those guys, especially Friedman. I cannot remember a time they were right about anything regarding the Blues. And while I still cannot find anything where either of these guys links the Blues to Provorov, it definitely does sound like something Friedman would make up and say with all his wiggle words. I wouldn't take those old rumors too seriously.

To add to what others have said, the Wild are the last team that'd be looking for a future goalie. For context:
a. Gustavsson was arguably a top 5 goalie this season (2nd lowest GAA) and is only 24.
b. Behind him, we have Jesper Wallstedt who is considered by most to be the best goalie prospect in the world. Wallstedt made the All Star team as a rookie in the AHL this season.
c. Hunter Jones was a 2nd rd pick in 2019 and although he's been a disappointment so far, goalies take longer than normal to develop and he has shown strides recently that give hope.

All in all, the Wild have 2 franchise goalies in their system so wouldn't be interested in Hart at all. Especially for that price. Our GM (Guerin) and head coach (Evason) cannot stop gushing over Faber. In fact, Guerin specifically targeted him in the Fiala trade. I could only see the Wild giving up such a haul as the one you proposed for a bona fide young, franchise center. Someone like McDavid, Matthews, et al. Which is unlikely to occur. Rossi is our only prospect that could become a franchise center -- something we've never had before.

Hope that helps.

Appreciate you being the first one to provide actual in depth context while not just crapping all over our players. Everyone seems to think just cause the Flyers have been poor that everyone of their players are worth nothing. Hope you guys can make a deep run, I am a big fan of Krill the Thrill and wish the Flyers had a player like him!