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Bye Bye Hayes TK Provy TDA

Créé par: DirtyDangles
Équipe: 2023-24 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 31 mars 2023
Publié: 31 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2850 000 $
2850 000 $
2850 000 $
32 750 000 $
22 250 000 $
22 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
PHI
  1. Roslovic, Jack
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Hayes, Kevin (2 642 857 $ retained)
2.
PHI
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
Any Team
3.
PHI
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (ARI)
Détails additionnels:
Any team
4.
PHI
    Any team
    MIN
    1. Deangelo, Anthony (2 500 000 $ retained)
    5.
    PHI
    1. Spence, Jordan
    2. Turcotte, Alex
    3. Walker, Sean
    4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
    LAK
    1. Provorov, Ivan
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
    6.
    PHI
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
    3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
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    31 mars 2023 à 10 h 33
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    Provorov isnt remotely worth that
    31 mars 2023 à 10 h 52
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    Quoting: Black61
    Provorov isnt remotely worth that


    You probably still consider Turcotte an A prospect.
    31 mars 2023 à 10 h 55
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    You probably still consider Turcotte an A prospect.


    You probably consider Provorov a top pairing dman lol
    31 mars 2023 à 10 h 56
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    Quoting: Black61
    You probably consider Provorov a top pairing dman lol


    He is a complimentary #2 D man. Put him with someone capable and he is 100% a top pairing D man.
    31 mars 2023 à 10 h 57
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    He is a complimentary #2 D man. Put him with someone capable and he is 100% a top pairing D man.


    Lol no he isnt
    31 mars 2023 à 11 h 1
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    Lol no he isnt


    The last capable D man he played with was Niskanen. Go look at that year.
    31 mars 2023 à 11 h 7
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    Canes could take on TDA for no retain if it got us TK cheaper
    31 mars 2023 à 11 h 7
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    The last capable D man he played with was Niskanen. Go look at that year.


    All of his personal microstats are pretty mediocre he isnt displaying anything that suggest with a better partner hed be a top pair guy. You just are doing toi number big =good dman.
    31 mars 2023 à 11 h 8
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    Quoting: ecupirate07
    Canes could take on TDA for no retain if it got us TK cheaper


    TDA will not be dumped for a price. Flyers are rebuilding, they will maximize the return on their best assets
    31 mars 2023 à 11 h 10
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    Quoting: Black61
    All of his personal microstats are pretty mediocre he isnt displaying anything that suggest with a better partner hed be a top pair guy. You just are doing toi number big =good dman.


    No, I have watched him his entire career. He has been disinterested in the Flyers for years now. I can guarantee if you put him beside Doughty or even Roy, that he'd be very good.
    31 mars 2023 à 11 h 13
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    No, I have watched him his entire career. He has been disinterested in the Flyers for years now. I can guarantee if you put him beside Doughty or even Roy, that he'd be very good.


    Ah yes just what teams are looking for a 6.75 million left handed dman that doesnt try and is a bigot.
    31 mars 2023 à 11 h 21
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    Quoting: Black61
    Ah yes just what teams are looking for a 6.75 million left handed dman that doesnt try and is a bigot.


    When he's winning he tries and I guess people aren't allowed to have their own beliefs or opinions anymore. Guess we better cancel him.
    31 mars 2023 à 11 h 27
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    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    When he's winning he tries and I guess people aren't allowed to have their own beliefs or opinions anymore. Guess we better cancel him.


    When hes winning he tries lol exactly what you want out of a teams higher paid player.

    And your the one who traded him to LA of all places lol you think a California team is going to touch him with a 10 foot pole?

    Provorv is negative value today
    31 mars 2023 à 11 h 29
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    Quoting: Black61
    Provorv is negative value today


    There goes all your credibility...have a nice day.
    31 mars 2023 à 11 h 43
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    Lol ypu have yet to provide a credible argument for him being remotely worth what you claimed.

    You said he was a carried 2. He is 27th in dman cap hit so hes overpaid even by ypur generous assestment.

    He is left handed so theres no RH premium on that number.

    He isnt inside the top 64 in dman points this year so he isnt from a production perspective a top pair guy

    You admitted hes lazy which other teams see too.

    And he has baggage as a individual.


    In a flat cap offseason that is EASILY negative value nevermind the haul you deemed.
    31 mars 2023 à 14 h 12
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    Personally, not following the logic of the moves of this rebuild.

    Hayes at 4.5 mill per would have higher value than that.

    DeAngelo at 2.5 per would have value too.

    Provy doesn’t carry that value right now, even though I actually agree he’s a top pair guy. Priority needs to be getting him a partner that can show that over the next year or year and a half to get that kind of return. Think it’s unreasonable to expect it now, and that’s from someone who values him higher than most. Moving guys when their value is lowest is one of the many reasons why Chuck Fletcher was cheeks.

    If TK says he’d resign and be part of the rebuild, not sure why he’d be moved at all. He’s still mid 20s and looks to be coming off a point per career year. I guess if this was the value you have to consider, but they have to pick some pieces to keep too.

    Also, why no Risto move? I’d be shopping the 5.1 for 5 years to anyone that shows the slightest interest in saving us that money.
    31 mars 2023 à 14 h 25
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    Quoting: Eharr0613
    Personally, not following the logic of the moves of this rebuild.

    Hayes at 4.5 mill per would have higher value than that.

    DeAngelo at 2.5 per would have value too.

    Provy doesn’t carry that value right now, even though I actually agree he’s a top pair guy. Priority needs to be getting him a partner that can show that over the next year or year and a half to get that kind of return. Think it’s unreasonable to expect it now, and that’s from someone who values him higher than most. Moving guys when their value is lowest is one of the many reasons why Chuck Fletcher was cheeks.

    If TK says he’d resign and be part of the rebuild, not sure why he’d be moved at all. He’s still mid 20s and looks to be coming off a point per career year. I guess if this was the value you have to consider, but they have to pick some pieces to keep too.

    Also, why no Risto move? I’d be shopping the 5.1 for 5 years to anyone that shows the slightest interest in saving us that money.


    Hayes is an absolute plug and i'd do whatever it takes to get him off this team.
    TDA is also a useless plug so we take anything we can get.
    TK is 26 with 2 years left on his contract. If we are 3-5 years out it makes sense to sell at his peak.
    Nobody is going to take Ristolainen.
    31 mars 2023 à 16 h 17
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    Quoting: Black61
    Provorov isnt remotely worth that


    In a perfect world, he isn't. There are probably a lot of GMs though that are going to be willing to overpay for him just based on pedigree and past performance.
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