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Big trade draft night

Créé par: math731
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 15 mars 2023
Publié: 15 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Draft

1. CHI-Bedard
2. MTL-Fantilli
3. CLB-Carlsson
4. SJ-Michkov
5. ANA-Smith
6. ARZ-Reinbacher
7. VAN-Dvorsky
8. PHI*** Traded to MTL-Benson
Transactions
MTL
  1. Hart, Carter
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
8th OA (Benson)
PHI
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Kidney, Riley
  3. Mailloux, Logan
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
12th OA and 36th OA (Leonard and whoever)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2582 500 000 $76 457 332 $1 132 500 $5 490 000 $6 042 668 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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825 000 $825 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 4
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880 833 $880 833 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DD
RFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 3
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 3
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3 979 000 $3 979 000 $
G
RFA - 2
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842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance507 500 $$508K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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6 375 000 $6 375 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2

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15 mars 2023 à 21 h 0
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A.) Benson isn't dropping 8th
B.) If FLA pick is acutely 12th, that is too much to move up 4 spots. Mailloux is still our most promising RD. There is more than Mailloux as well.
15 mars 2023 à 21 h 3
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Hart is one of the best goiles in the league, Dvorak has done nothing this year. The flyers won't give up their first round pick because of how bad they have been this year. Philly would just get worse with this trade. This is a deal Chuck Fletcher would make.
15 mars 2023 à 21 h 4
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A.) Benson isn't dropping 8th
B.) If FLA pick is acutely 12th, that is too much to move up 4 spots. Mailloux is still our most promising RD. There is more than Mailloux as well.


Benson is hurt and might miss the rest of the year (unfortunately). And when you look at multiple scouting lists (ex : Pronman), he's often outside the top 8 even top 10. I agree that hes awesome tho (thats why I want him) but smaller players tend to drop a bit.

I get that Mailloux is promising, but we're also getting Hart back (who's still has tons of potential). Heres how I see the value :

Hart = Mailloux, Kidney + half of Dvorak (probably = 2nd rd pick).
8th OA = 12th + 36th + half of Dvorak (= 2nd rd pick).
15 mars 2023 à 21 h 4
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Hart is one of the best goiles in the league, Dvorak has done nothing this year. The flyers won't give up their first round pick because of how bad they have been this year. Philly would just get worse with this trade. This is a deal Chuck Fletcher would make.

They would also have no starter
15 mars 2023 à 21 h 5
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Benson is hurt and might miss the rest of the year (unfortunately). And when you look at multiple scouting lists (ex : Pronman), he's often outside the top 8 even top 10. I agree that hes awesome tho (thats why I want him) but smaller players tend to drop a bit.

I get that Mailloux is promising, but we're also getting Hart back (who's still has tons of potential). Heres how I see the value :

Hart = Mailloux, Kidney + half of Dvorak (probably = 2nd rd pick).
8th OA = 12th + 36th + half of Dvorak (= 2nd rd pick).


Yep, I did not see Hart, just completely read over him, trade makes much more sense
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15 mars 2023 à 21 h 6
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Hart is one of the best goiles in the league, Dvorak has done nothing this year. The flyers won't give up their first round pick because of how bad they have been this year. Philly would just get worse with this trade. This is a deal Chuck Fletcher would make.


Hart hasnt been great since the MTL series. I certainly think that he still has the potential (and I certainly like the idea of him receiving the Dach treatment here in MTL), but you can't come here and say hes one of the best goalies in the league lmao. The value is great here, and you're not trading your pick completely, you move down 4 ranks
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15 mars 2023 à 21 h 7
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They would also have no starter


Friedman said that they might entertain the idea of trading him because of Ersson and because they dont want to potentialy waste Hart's best years (if there are still any) in a long rebuild
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15 mars 2023 à 21 h 11
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Hart hasnt been great since the MTL series. I certainly think that he still has the potential (and I certainly like the idea of him receiving the Dach treatment here in MTL), but you can't come here and say hes one of the best goalies in the league lmao. The value is great here, and you're not trading your pick completely, you move down 4 ranks


Hart hasnt been great since that series because he has a bad team in front of him. Torts also likes him so he might not go anywere. This trade might be possible though. They could possibly get a better goaile in the future with the first and 2 pick. This trade could actually work out for MTL and philly
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15 mars 2023 à 21 h 15
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Friedman said that they might entertain the idea of trading him because of Ersson and because they dont want to potentialy waste Hart's best years (if there are still any) in a long rebuild


ersson is a great goaile but they would have to find a backup because sandstrom is not the backup you would want to have for next year. Sandstrom is not a bad goaile, you just don't want him on a team that has defense as bad as the flyers, who also cant score to make up for their bad defense
15 mars 2023 à 21 h 20
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Big pass.
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15 mars 2023 à 21 h 25
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ersson is a great goaile but they would have to find a backup because sandstrom is not the backup you would want to have for next year. Sandstrom is not a bad goaile, you just don't want him on a team that has defense as bad as the flyers, who also cant score to make up for their bad defense


we could include Allen
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15 mars 2023 à 21 h 31
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that could work, but because of the flyers cap they might have to move some players, but with ellis on ltir and the cap could go up by 1m or more they could afford him
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we could include Allen

that could work, but because of the flyers cap they might have to move some players, but with ellis on ltir and the cap could go up by 1m or more they could afford him
15 mars 2023 à 22 h 19
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Benson is hurt and might miss the rest of the year (unfortunately). And when you look at multiple scouting lists (ex : Pronman), he's often outside the top 8 even top 10. I agree that hes awesome tho (thats why I want him) but smaller players tend to drop a bit.

I get that Mailloux is promising, but we're also getting Hart back (who's still has tons of potential). Heres how I see the value :

Hart = Mailloux, Kidney + half of Dvorak (probably = 2nd rd pick).
8th OA = 12th + 36th + half of Dvorak (= 2nd rd pick).


You put a pretty high value on Dvorak. Depending on who's available Philly likely just keeps that pick. They could probably get a nice package of approximately Kidney, Mailloux and a second for Hart.
15 mars 2023 à 22 h 57
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Hart is one of the best goiles in the league, Dvorak has done nothing this year. The flyers won't give up their first round pick because of how bad they have been this year. Philly would just get worse with this trade. This is a deal Chuck Fletcher would make.


Not even Fletcher makes this deal.
And Hart has been great all year.
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16 mars 2023 à 9 h 13
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Benson is hurt and might miss the rest of the year (unfortunately). And when you look at multiple scouting lists (ex : Pronman), he's often outside the top 8 even top 10. I agree that hes awesome tho (thats why I want him) but smaller players tend to drop a bit.

I get that Mailloux is promising, but we're also getting Hart back (who's still has tons of potential). Heres how I see the value :

Hart = Mailloux, Kidney + half of Dvorak (probably = 2nd rd pick).
8th OA = 12th + 36th + half of Dvorak (= 2nd rd pick).


Why is Dvorak worth two 2nd round picks?

2 years left a $4,450,000, I'd say he's closer to a cap dump

Bjorkstrand went for a 3rd and 4th last year and he's much better
 
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