trust me mantha is bad but saad isn't much better and has 3 more years on his deal, caps could get a much better player for their first

The value of the Edmonton trade is way off... as evidenced by you subsequently placing Yamamoto on the 4th line and Foegele in the press box.

Isles decline

Much as i love Krug…no thanks.

Saad is much much much better than mantha
It’s not close

Caps pass quickly.

he has one more point than mantha this year, once again caps could get a significantly better player attaching these picks

Nah, we'll pass

K but he’s much much better defensively and isn’t lazy like mantha is
Also he doesn’t get injured every 3 games like mantha does

Blues pass take out mantha

Faulk off, Minnesota isn’t paying for him.

Saad is giving up more goals, expected goals, and shots against /60 than Mantha

He’s playing on a worse team with a much worse defense
It’s not he’s doing

saad gives up 1% more xg against than the average NHL forward, mantha allows 9% fewer. Trust me I do not like Mantha as a player, but giving up what could be a very high 24 1st and a high 23 second in order to add long term money, get slightly older, and not really upgrade at forward is a horrendous deal for Washington. wingers who don't score and are on pretty big money are the least valuable assets in the league, saad and mantha are a complete wash, not a 1st+ difference in value

I agree giving up all that for saad is crazy
But I’m arguing that Saad is better than mantha and maintain that