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Créé par: Nighthawk
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 7 mars 2023
Publié: 7 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Bear hasn’t earned a raise yet.
Hog a modest raise. Same as above.
Kravtsov same as Hog.
Juulsen a depth D contract.
Dermott depth D contract for tradeability
Delia cheap for organizational depth

UFA Gavrikov for defensive D needs.
Mayfield same as Gavrikov.
Barbasgev to fill 3C hole for need.

13th forward up for grabs won in training camp or revolving door call ups.

Delia & Silovs platoon as a back up & split games Demko is rested.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
31 750 000 $
21 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
2850 000 $
21 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1850 000 $
43 500 000 $
22 000 000 $
34 000 000 $
2850 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
Detroit still rebuilding & can afford the cap & give the lesser picks.
DET
  1. Myers, Tyler (1 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Means Myers cost nothing to his new team after the 5m bonus paid. Assume 5m cap hit
2.
VAN
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Pitt needs top winger scoring help.
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $76 096 250 $850 000 $850 000 $7 403 750 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
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6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
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825 000 $825 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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883 750 $883 750 $
C
RFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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7 mars 2023 à 19 h 22
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I would guess that most of those UFAs sign for more
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7 mars 2023 à 19 h 25
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I'd take Myers for a season for that
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7 mars 2023 à 19 h 26
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Detroit passes, Zero interest in Tyler Myers.

And Gavrikov and Mayfield are underpaid by at least $1,000,000 each.
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7 mars 2023 à 19 h 26
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Quoting: JohnJohnson
I would guess that most of those UFAs sign for more


And with that state of the Canucks, Canucks look they have to pay a premium for any UFA to sign.
7 mars 2023 à 19 h 44
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Quoting: JohnJohnson
I would guess that most of those UFAs sign for more


Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Detroit passes, Zero interest in Tyler Myers.

And Gavrikov and Mayfield are underpaid by at least $1,000,000 each.


There is cap space left for more. Term is the key. It’s only about type of players for need.
7 mars 2023 à 19 h 51
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Delusional.
7 mars 2023 à 19 h 53
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Quoting: JuanDamienNebraska
Delusional.


If true then fits in perfectly with your GM’s MO
7 mars 2023 à 19 h 55
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Quoting: Nighthawk
If true then fits in perfectly with your GM’s MO


Sadly, that I can’t argue. A competent GM wouldn’t make this trade for the Pens in a million years. Though I must say you have a lot of nerve being that your organization is the 2nd biggest laughing stock in the league, only behind Arizona.
7 mars 2023 à 20 h 2
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Detroit passes, Zero interest in Tyler Myers.

And Gavrikov and Mayfield are underpaid by at least $1,000,000 each.


Myers is RD. Detroit has none. He is big. He can fill a hole for a year. Maybe he rebounds to his pre Canucks days and becomes a valuable bottom 4 guy that can be resigned. Next year will be a little better for Detroit, but I'm not sure they are a playoff team.
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7 mars 2023 à 20 h 27
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Quoting: tonyhzs
Myers is RD. Detroit has none. He is big. He can fill a hole for a year. Maybe he rebounds to his pre Canucks days and becomes a valuable bottom 4 guy that can be resigned. Next year will be a little better for Detroit, but I'm not sure they are a playoff team.


Maybe but there's still no reason we should have to give up any picks in this trade.
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7 mars 2023 à 20 h 35
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Quoting: RedWing9119
Maybe but there's still no reason we should have to give up any picks in this trade.


2 middle 4ths for a later 3rd isn't exactly bad. Probably slightly better than the 4ths, which are total crapshoot. A 3rd can sometimes get you a guy who slipped from 2nd, or guy you don't think others know enough about.
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7 mars 2023 à 20 h 38
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Quoting: tonyhzs
2 middle 4ths for a later 3rd isn't exactly bad. Probably slightly better than the 4ths, which are total crapshoot. A 3rd can sometimes get you a guy who slipped from 2nd, or guy you don't think others know enough about.


Doesn't matter. Bonus or no, we're doing them a favor by eating a massive cap hit. They've tried to trade him and found no takers. They are not in a bargaining position. I wouldn't give them anything in return.
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7 mars 2023 à 20 h 47
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Quoting: RedWing9119
Doesn't matter. Bonus or no, we're doing them a favor by eating a massive cap hit. They've tried to trade him and found no takers. They are not in a bargaining position. I wouldn't give them anything in return.


Fine, make it a 4th and 7th? Myers isn't useless, he is a victim of misuse, like Jonathan Ericsson; stop expecting him to be a top 4 when he is a bottom 4 and he will be fine.
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7 mars 2023 à 20 h 49
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Quoting: tonyhzs
Fine, make it a 4th and 7th? Myers isn't useless, he is a victim of misuse, like Jonathan Ericsson; stop expecting him to be a top 4 when he is a bottom 4 and he will be fine.


I really should have gone Brad Stuart on this one when he arrived in Detroit...right partner, right deployments, and became a great 2nd pair D despite his lofty expectations before.
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7 mars 2023 à 20 h 54
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Quoting: RedWing9119
Doesn't matter. Bonus or no, we're doing them a favor by eating a massive cap hit. They've tried to trade him and found no takers. They are not in a bargaining position. I wouldn't give them anything in return.


Quoting: tonyhzs
2 middle 4ths for a later 3rd isn't exactly bad. Probably slightly better than the 4ths, which are total crapshoot. A 3rd can sometimes get you a guy who slipped from 2nd, or guy you don't think others know enough about.


Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Detroit passes, Zero interest in Tyler Myers.

And Gavrikov and Mayfield are underpaid by at least $1,000,000 each.


Quoting: Jfstompers
I'd take Myers for a season for that


Take out at least one fourth but it would be better served as a fifth or sixth. Two fourths can likely get that third straight up. It's helping too much, take away the retention as it deserves no purpose and make it a later pick I think is fair.
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7 mars 2023 à 21 h 3
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Quoting: Lancebmx
Take out at least one fourth but it would be better served as a fifth or sixth. Two fourths can likely get that third straight up. It's helping too much, take away the retention as it deserves no purpose and make it a later pick I think is fair.


The problem is the offseason. There are going to be a few teams that are cap floor, a few teams wanting to be at the floor but also wanting to get assets for nothing. Worst case next year, Myers is a deadline trade for a 3rd or something. In the offseason, this is a bidding war, albeit a low spenders one. 4th round picks have little value to a team that is coming out of a rebuild because of roster limits; Detroit does better in a 2 for 1 on a pick so they can sign an extra prospect they already drafted but think he needs another year.
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7 mars 2023 à 21 h 8
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Quoting: tonyhzs
The problem is the offseason. There are going to be a few teams that are cap floor, a few teams wanting to be at the floor but also wanting to get assets for nothing. Worst case next year, Myers is a deadline trade for a 3rd or something. In the offseason, this is a bidding war, albeit a low spenders one. 4th round picks have little value to a team that is coming out of a rebuild because of roster limits; Detroit does better in a 2 for 1 on a pick so they can sign an extra prospect they already drafted but think he needs another year.


I think only Chicago and Anaheim will need to take on contracts to hit cap floor, Arizona has alot of ltir guys right now they don't him. I could see a deal with one fourth but not both. I'm not totally opposed to it though, would just rather get better value.
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7 mars 2023 à 21 h 13
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Quoting: Lancebmx
I think only Chicago and Anaheim will need to take on contracts to hit cap floor, Arizona has alot of ltir guys right now they don't him. I could see a deal with one fourth but not both. I'm not totally opposed to it though, would just rather get better value.


I'm all for getting better value. With a year left on his deal, retention, no out of pocket for owners, and TDL trade possibility, I just think there is value to Myers.
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7 mars 2023 à 21 h 21
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I'm all for getting better value. With a year left on his deal, retention, no out of pocket for owners, and TDL trade possibility, I just think there is value to Myers.


I guess it depends if it's before or after the bonus is paid as well. Considering this has 2023 picks it would be before the bonus is paid.
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7 mars 2023 à 21 h 24
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Quoting: tonyhzs
I'm all for getting better value. With a year left on his deal, retention, no out of pocket for owners, and TDL trade possibility, I just think there is value to Myers.

So far you’re the only one seeing next season the value not the now or the old lame excuses.
7 mars 2023 à 21 h 40
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Quoting: Nighthawk
So far you’re the only one seeing next season the value not the now or the old lame excuses.


Maybe I am the dummy! My take is 2 4ths for a 3rd isn't bad, especially when the 4ths are later. Has Myers gone on waivers? If he hasn't, that indicates there is at least SOME value to current GMs, otherwise the dump would have happened already. There isn't a NMC, so if he was garbage, he'd be in the AHL. He has value, even as depth.
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7 mars 2023 à 23 h 1
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Seriously if Yzerman wanted to fill the spot vacated by Hronek with Myers don't you think he would've been part of the trade. No matter what you think of Yzerman as a GM there is one thing you can't deny he is extremely meticulous. Adding Myers to that trade adds about $1.5M to this season's cap hardly worth waiting until the offseason to pull the trigger. It's much more likely they add some one like Klingberg.
 
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