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Créé par: Andy_Dick
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 4 mars 2023
Publié: 4 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Hughes drafts Will Smith then throws him off the stage into the lap of MSL.

Keep his name outta yo mouth, Kent
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3900 000 $
3900 000 $
3900 000 $
3850 000 $
3900 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
12 900 000 $
21 500 000 $
88 250 000 $
21 150 000 $
1900 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Sale, Eduard
3925 000 $
Smith, Will
3925 000 $
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MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
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MTL
  1. Scandella, Marco
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
St Louis is trying to retool and need a 3rd line center. They have a ton of draft capital. Scandella returns to his hometown.Cap dump for the money of Eddy. Maybe Mtl can flip him for another asset at the TDL same as in 2020 for a 2nd rnd'r after Buffalo traded him a month earlier for a 4th. Not Armstrong's best moment
STL
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Edmundson, Joel
Détails additionnels:
Too many centers on the club and there is nothing available in free agency. Hughes takes the sunk cost and runs. Edmundson goes back home where he won a cup
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (CHI)
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4 mars 2023 à 23 h 28
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Yeeeeeah, the Blues aren't touching that.
4 mars 2023 à 23 h 31
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Yeeeeeah, the Blues aren't touching that.


Then they find another deal. Have fun dumping Scandella and grabbing a 3rd line center in free agency. The best center available is Lars Eller. Go back home Lars!
4 mars 2023 à 23 h 47
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Then they find another deal. Have fun dumping Scandella and grabbing a 3rd line center in free agency. The best center available is Lars Eller. Go back home Lars!


We don't really need to dump Scandella and we aren't looking to compete next year. We don't need Dvorak or Edmundson. Especially not giving up a first for those two players. We are doing a mini rebuild from about 2-4 years.
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5 mars 2023 à 0 h 9
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Then they find another deal. Have fun dumping Scandella and grabbing a 3rd line center in free agency. The best center available is Lars Eller. Go back home Lars!


They can always just buyout Scandella if they want. They aren't going to be competing next year anyways. If they trade a first it will be for a good player at least
5 mars 2023 à 0 h 15
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We don't really need to dump Scandella and we aren't looking to compete next year. We don't need Dvorak or Edmundson. Especially not giving up a first for those two players. We are doing a mini rebuild from about 2-4 years.


Blues have one of the worst cap situation with long term deals to so many players including raises to Thomas and Kyrou next season.
With Regional Sports Networks going bankrupt.. The cap isnt going up much anytime soon. You're going to have pay to dump a lot of salary. You can say the 2nd is to dump Scandella that would mean Edmundson/Dvorak cost a late 1st. Hardly much especially with the Bues having 3 1sts already in 2023.. A lottery ticket, really. Mtl, most likely, gets a better deal than this but i went low.

They'd easily get a 1st for Edmundson at the TDL and their cap is fine going forward with LTIR on Price whos retiring officially and Gallagher's career in jeopardy.. The Blues have no leverage here. This is more to move out veterans for the Habs and give space to the young players
5 mars 2023 à 0 h 27
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Then they find another deal. Have fun dumping Scandella and grabbing a 3rd line center in free agency. The best center available is Lars Eller. Go back home Lars!


Dumping Scandella is not so dire, he only has one year left and is a much more solid player than everyone acts like he is as long as he's not asked to play top pairing. The Blues could re-sign Barby or Acciari, among other options that are not limited to UFA free agency. I'm sure we'll be just fine without accepting this highway robbery, thanks.
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5 mars 2023 à 0 h 38
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Blues have one of the worst cap situation with long term deals to so many players including raises to Thomas and Kyrou next season.
With Regional Sports Networks going bankrupt.. The cap isnt going up much anytime soon. You're going to have pay to dump a lot of salary. You can say the 2nd is to dump Scandella that would mean Edmundson/Dvorak cost a late 1st. Hardly much especially with the Bues having 3 1sts already in 2023.. A lottery ticket, really. Mtl, most likely, gets a better deal than this but i went low.

They'd easily get a 1st for Edmundson at the TDL and their cap is fine going forward with LTIR on Price whos retiring officially and Gallagher's career in jeopardy.. The Blues have no leverage here. This is more to move out veterans for the Habs and give space to the young players


Again why are the blues wanting to dump Scandella? We are not competing next year and have no need to trade future assets for meh players. Again the blues have no need for Dvorak and no need for Edmundson. Trade them to a real contender if you want. Yes we are going to suck and the GM knows it. We are doing a mini rebuild that will take 2-4 years to complete. If we can move some D contracts we are most likely going to keep them. We are also said to be looking for players 25 and under. Neither Edmundson nor Dvorak are in that age group. This trade makes 0 sense for the blues. We will trade the first for younger better players like we were rumored to be in on. Players like Meier and Chychrun, not Dvorak and Edmundson
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5 mars 2023 à 3 h 50
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Blues have one of the worst cap situation with long term deals to so many players including raises to Thomas and Kyrou next season.
With Regional Sports Networks going bankrupt.. The cap isnt going up much anytime soon. You're going to have pay to dump a lot of salary. You can say the 2nd is to dump Scandella that would mean Edmundson/Dvorak cost a late 1st. Hardly much especially with the Bues having 3 1sts already in 2023.. A lottery ticket, really. Mtl, most likely, gets a better deal than this but i went low.

They'd easily get a 1st for Edmundson at the TDL and their cap is fine going forward with LTIR on Price whos retiring officially and Gallagher's career in jeopardy.. The Blues have no leverage here. This is more to move out veterans for the Habs and give space to the young players


I don’t see why Edmundson has the value to return a 1st and Scandella is a dump. They’re extremely similar players.

You could genuinely argue all 3 players included are dumps. I’m being facetious here, but it’s not that far fetched.

I could see Dvorak being of interest, but not at the cost of a first. He’s a young enough guy it could be a decent reclamation project at a position of need. I just doubt they’d want to be locked into that contract at that term.

Given the circumstances I would rather the Blues sign Lars Eller for 3-4m for next year as opposed to getting dvorak for 2 seasons. I would probably pay a 3rd for him to take the chance he’s worth having a roster spot for while we wait for Bolduc, Dean and Snuggerud to earn the spots.

Personal opinion I would value all 3 players as the following at this point in time.

Dvorak 3rd rounder
Edmundson 2/3rd rounder
Scandella 3/4the rounder

Another point to your comment. You’re stating the Blues are needing to do essentially the same thing thay you’re trying to accomplish here. They do, but they don’t need to do it next season. We have like 8m in cap and really only need to sign 2-3 depth/4th line forwards and a 3C.

Switch Scandella to Krug and I’d do this. It’s not realistic, Krug isn’t waiving for Montreal right now. But that’s besides the point
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5 mars 2023 à 9 h 35
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I don’t see why Edmundson has the value to return a 1st and Scandella is a dump. They’re extremely similar players.



I stopped reading after this. That's delusional
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We will trade the first for younger better players like we were rumored to be in on. Players like Meier and Chychrun, not Dvorak and Edmundson


What? Neither are available. My whole point was that the free agency list is barren. Dvorak will go at the worst for a 2nd. And, I dont even like that return but they are making room. They'll easily move him elsewhere then and you can sign Lars Eller, there is no Meier in free agency and/or trade.
5 mars 2023 à 9 h 44
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What? Neither are available. My whole point was that the free agency list is barren. Dvorak will go at the worst for a 2nd. And, I dont even like that return but they are making room. They'll easily move him elsewhere then and you can sign Lars Eller, there is no Meier in free agency and/or trade.


What I was saying is that we were rumored to be in on Meier and Chychrun before they were traded. Those were the players we were interested in because they were young, good players. Neither Dvorak or Edmundson fit into the young good players category. The thing is we don't need a 3C and we certainly aren't going to pay a 1st to get one. We also don't need Edmundson because we are not looking to win either. Both those players don't fit our timeline at all. Also Scandella is only here for 1 more year so there is no need to dump him. We already added Kapanen and Vrana for next year. Both can be good players but they cost us little assets and on 1 year contracts after this season. IF they do well we can flip them for assets at next year TDL or extend them. Point is we are not trading our firsts unless it's for a younger player that is good.
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What I was saying is that we were rumored to be in on Meier and Chychrun before they were traded. Those were the players we were interested in because they were young, good players. Neither Dvorak or Edmundson fit into the young good players category. The thing is we don't need a 3C and we certainly aren't going to pay a 1st to get one. We also don't need Edmundson because we are not looking to win either. Both those players don't fit our timeline at all. Also Scandella is only here for 1 more year so there is no need to dump him. We already added Kapanen and Vrana for next year. Both can be good players but they cost us little assets and on 1 year contracts after this season. IF they do well we can flip them for assets at next year TDL or extend them. Point is we are not trading our firsts unless it's for a younger player that is good.


I dont think you understand the value of an early 1st and a late 1st.

The reason Chychrun was traded to Ottawa was for the chance at a better 1st.

The 1st you are trading is a very late 1st from the Leafs. Stop grasping at straws. You are not getting Meier or Chychrun or anyone close to that level of player otherwise LA or Edmonton would have grabbed them.
5 mars 2023 à 10 h 27
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I dont think you understand the value of an early 1st and a late 1st.

The reason Chychrun was traded to Ottawa was for the chance at a better 1st.

The 1st you are trading is a very late 1st from the Leafs. Stop grasping at straws. You are not getting Meier or Chychrun or anyone close to that level of player otherwise LA or Edmonton would have grabbed them.


You do realize we have 3 firsts in the draft. We offered 2 of them plus other assets for Meier/Chychrun. All I'm saying is that Dvorak and Edmundson do not fit the timeline of our team. I wouldn't trade anything of value for them because we have no need for them. You can trade them to other teams. Edmundson is 29 and only has 1 year left on his contract. That provides the blues no value to them because they are going to suck next year and will most likely not want to sign another 30 year old to a multi year contract. Dvorak is a 30-40 point player and we already have enough of those. He is also 27 and in his prime. IF we trade for him we are going to waste his prime years because our team as a whole sucks. If you want to trade Edmundson and Dvorak for a first go ahead but it will not be the blues because they don't fit our needs or timeline.
5 mars 2023 à 14 h 5
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I stopped reading after this. That's delusional


Makes sense. Don’t give any reason why they are not. Just spew nonsense and sit on your high horse.
5 mars 2023 à 14 h 10
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I dont think you understand the value of an early 1st and a late 1st.

The reason Chychrun was traded to Ottawa was for the chance at a better 1st.

The 1st you are trading is a very late 1st from the Leafs. Stop grasping at straws. You are not getting Meier or Chychrun or anyone close to that level of player otherwise LA or Edmonton would have grabbed them.


Yes because the Devils 1st is extremely early.

You argue against yourself in every post you make.
 
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