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Créé par: TDruga1400

Équipe: 2022-23 Penguins de Pittsburgh

Date de création initiale: 1 mars 2023

Publié: 1 mars 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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I know we do not want to get rid of Pettersson but in order to make any trade for Miller work financially, its him or Petry and Petry has a NMC. It wont be as bad as you guys think, POJ on the come up and then Chychrun basically replaces him anyways. Also the Arizona trade could see another prospect going to Ari. Enough with thinking a 1st and 2nd will do!

Just learned retainage carries over, Miller trade would be much different and less retained

Transactions

PIT

Chychrun, Jakob

ARI

Poulin, Samuel
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (PIT)

PIT

Miller, J.T. (2 625 000 $ retained)

VAN

Hållander, Filip
Pettersson, Marcus
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (PIT)

Rachats de contrats

Jack Johnson: 1 916 667 $

Enfoui

Brock McGinn: 1 625 000 $ (2 750 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	82 500 000 $	76 635 417 $	0 $	0 $	5 864 583 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Guentzel, Jake 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 2	Crosby, Sidney 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C NMC UFA - 3	Rakell, Rickard 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 6
Zucker, Jason 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Malkin, Evgeni 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ C NMC UFA - 4	Miller, J.T. 2 625 000 $2 625 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1
	Carter, Jeff 3 125 000 $3 125 000 $ AD, C NMC UFA - 2	Rust, Bryan 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 6
Heinen, Danton 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Blueger, Teddy 2 200 000 $2 200 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Archibald, Josh 900 000 $900 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Poehling, Ryan 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1
O'Connor, Drew 750 000 $750 000 $ AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Dumoulin, Brian 4 100 000 $4 100 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1	Petry, Jeff 2 343 750 $2 343 750 $ DD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Jarry, Tristan 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ G UFA - 1
Chychrun, Jakob 4 600 000 $4 600 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 3	Letang, Kris 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 6	DeSmith, Casey 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ G UFA - 2
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier 825 000 $825 000 $ DG RFA - 2	Rutta, Jan 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 3
	Ruhwedel, Chad 800 000 $800 000 $ DD UFA - 2

1 mars 2023 à 12 h 22

Mr_Gardoki

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I think AZ is going to want Pickering or Smith. Poulin is a so-so prospect at this point.

For VAN, if they're willing to eat some salary for Miller, my guess it's closer to $1.5-$2M and would need a 1st.

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1 mars 2023 à 12 h 22

Pensman69

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We would have to add on to both of those trades, slight underpays on both

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1 mars 2023 à 12 h 23

Hammerwise

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While that offer to VAN might seem in the ballpark, although Hallander and the 4th are both really weak, no way does VAN retain as Miller is already resigned long term.

VAN would probably need multiple 1sts to retain for that long

1 mars 2023 à 12 h 24

TDruga1400

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Quoting: Pensman69

We would have to add on to both of those trades, slight underpays on both

I wasnt sure on Petterssons value, and Canucks fans say anything to get rid of millers contract will do. I agree adding onto Arizona tho

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1 mars 2023 à 12 h 25

TDruga1400

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Quoting: Hammerwise

Retainage would just be this years contract not on extension

1 mars 2023 à 12 h 28

Pensman69

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Quoting: TDruga1400

I wasnt sure on Petterssons value, and Canucks fans say anything to get rid of millers contract will do. I agree adding onto Arizona tho

I’d think that if we get that much retained back on Miller, we would have to start the base of a trade with at least a first + Petts or Joseph and then from there who knows

1 mars 2023 à 12 h 30

TDruga1400

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Modifié 1 mars 2023 à 12 h 38

Quoting: Pensman69

I’d think that if we get that much retained back on Miller, we would have to start the base of a trade with at least a first + Petts or Joseph and then from there who knows

Well the retainage is only on the 1 year left, not extension (nvm im dumb)

1 mars 2023 à 12 h 31

Juiceman

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Quoting: Pensman69

We would have to add on to both of those trades, slight underpays on both

"Slight".

The Canucks will not be retaining 50% of Miller's contract for the next 8 years

1 mars 2023 à 12 h 32

Juiceman

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Quoting: TDruga1400

Well the retainage is only on the 1 year left, not extension

Wrong. The % retention carries over to the next contract

1 mars 2023 à 12 h 32

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Regarding what happens when a player is traded with retained salary and they have a contract extension that hasn't begun yet:The league settled this issue with clubs back in 2013: the retained salary percentage always applies across the current active contract AND the extension
— CapFriendly (@CapFriendly) February 28, 2023

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1 mars 2023 à 12 h 34

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TDruga1400

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Quoting: Juiceman

Wrong. The % retention carries over to the next contract

Oh i thought i read something that said it wouldnt, that changes alot

1 mars 2023 à 12 h 50

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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki

A 1st, 2nd and Pickering might end up getting it done for AZ. Teams are bailing because of their high ask so taking what is two firsts and a 2nd without retention or cap coming back should fly.

1 mars 2023 à 13 h 0

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DonkeyLips

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Be realistic?! Why did you post this then? It is not realistic.

1 mars 2023 à 13 h 36

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Pensfan303

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Or instead or Petterson, you can move Rutta and Teddy

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