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Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 22 févr. 2023
Publié: 22 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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1.
TOR
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
MIN
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
Détails additionnels:
if they want a depth guy for the playoffs
2.
TOR
  1. Domi, Max (1 200 000 $ retained)
  2. Lafferty, Sam
Détails additionnels:
retained by arizona
CHI
  1. Abruzzese, Nick
  2. Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
3.
VAN
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. Hollowell, Mac
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
can do what you want with holl... Mac has played a few games here and looked decent, i know the asking price is a second but adding a prospect to come back a round seems fair, added on with a PKer in holl they can resign if they want, seems like a fair trade to me
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2582 500 000 $80 987 913 $212 500 $0 $1 512 087 $
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 2
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
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UFA - 3
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
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1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 2
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 2
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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840 630 $840 630 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
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RFA - 1
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 8
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 2
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4 687 500 $4 687 500 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 3
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800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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850 000 $850 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
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796 667 $796 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
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22 févr. 2023 à 13 h 9
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This is just my opinion, but I think you're hosing yourself to the next level here:

Kerfoot>Domi
Holl>Schenn
SDA+Hollowell+1st+3rd+6th >>>>>>> Lafferty+4th
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22 févr. 2023 à 13 h 10
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Quoting: Lenny7
This is just my opinion, but I think you're hosing yourself to the next level here:

Kerfoot>Domi
Holl>Schenn
SDA+Hollowell+1st+3rd+6th >>>>>>> Lafferty+4th


agreed. lateral trades at best giving up useful assets needlessly
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22 févr. 2023 à 13 h 17
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agreed. lateral trades at best giving up useful assets needlessly


I *sort of* get the Lafferty love...he's been decent on a really bad team...but my assumption here is that the group of Leafs fans who don't like Holl/Kerfoot would be shocked at how there's relatively no imporvement by shipping them out for players that are, at best, lateral moves.

I don't know...I'd figure out a way to do a 2nd, or some equivalent since y'all don't have any of those, to get Lafferty and move on with my life. People still think Domi is "gritty", when he's actually not. Kerfoot has over twice as many hits as him this year, and is by far the safer player to put out there on the 3rd line when it comes to having someone play some semblence of 2 way hockey.
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22 févr. 2023 à 13 h 18
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Quoting: Lenny7
This is just my opinion, but I think you're hosing yourself to the next level here:

Kerfoot>Domi
Holl>Schenn
SDA+Hollowell+1st+3rd+6th >>>>>>> Lafferty+4th


I'm gonna go ahead and agree with all of the above.

The off season is when a team might make a trade for the sake of shaking things up and trying a different look. The deadline is to add pieces to help enhance the team you've already put together.

I understand trying to "get grittier" for a playoff run...but you don't subtract two roster players from a top 5 team in what is, at best, lateral moves.
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22 févr. 2023 à 13 h 34
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Quoting: Lenny7
This is just my opinion, but I think you're hosing yourself to the next level here:

Kerfoot>Domi
Holl>Schenn
SDA+Hollowell+1st+3rd+6th >>>>>>> Lafferty+4th


would disagree on the Holl Schenn front because Schenn has a stanley cup pedigree, is more physical, and is a bit better all round but it isnt enough to make that much of a difference
22 févr. 2023 à 14 h 1
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Quoting: Lenny7
I *sort of* get the Lafferty love...he's been decent on a really bad team...but my assumption here is that the group of Leafs fans who don't like Holl/Kerfoot would be shocked at how there's relatively no imporvement by shipping them out for players that are, at best, lateral moves.

I don't know...I'd figure out a way to do a 2nd, or some equivalent since y'all don't have any of those, to get Lafferty and move on with my life. People still think Domi is "gritty", when he's actually not. Kerfoot has over twice as many hits as him this year, and is by far the safer player to put out there on the 3rd line when it comes to having someone play some semblence of 2 way hockey.


i get the argument for lafferty, but it still feels pointless. knies is coming up and will fill the role of physically imposing player next to kerf & acciari.
holmberg, ZAR, and anderson are all nhl-calibre players sitting on the sidelines.

he's a good player on a bad team but i just don't see a fit here

leafs need defense if anything - and GOOD defense, not a lateral "upgrade"
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22 févr. 2023 à 14 h 3
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would disagree on the Holl Schenn front because Schenn has a stanley cup pedigree, is more physical, and is a bit better all round but it isnt enough to make that much of a difference


I'll politely disagree, and here's why:

-You say "Stanley Cup Pedigree", I say "He played in just 19 out of the 45 playoff games in those two cup runs, averaging just over 10 minutes per game". He's also played in 31 playoff games going into what will be his 15th NHL season this year.
-You say "More Physical", and I say "Schenn hits more because his team rarely has the puck when he's on the ice." Ever notice how the vast majority of players who lead the league in hits play on teams or lines that struggle to keep possession?
-You say "Is a bit better all around", and I say "Luke Schenn is 5th in ATOI for a team that desperately needs a RD, whereas Holl plays over 21 minutes a night on a team that is actually quite strong defensively".

I'm not a Leafs fan, but I take Holl over Schenn every day of the week.
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22 févr. 2023 à 14 h 13
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i get the argument for lafferty, but it still feels pointless. knies is coming up and will fill the role of physically imposing player next to kerf & acciari.
holmberg, ZAR, and anderson are all nhl-calibre players sitting on the sidelines.

he's a good player on a bad team but i just don't see a fit here

leafs need defense if anything - and GOOD defense, not a lateral "upgrade"


I'd agree. I don't think they necessarily *have* to trade for a dman, and realistically I don't know that there's someone who's available that's a big enough upgrade to bother.
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22 févr. 2023 à 16 h 13
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I'd agree. I don't think they necessarily *have* to trade for a dman, and realistically I don't know that there's someone who's available that's a big enough upgrade to bother.


the only player that comes to mind right now is andrew peeke. good size, moves the puck well, strong enough top 4 defenseman. no idea what the price is (2nd + 3rd?) but i think dubas should be inquiring on that front

other than that, this leafs forward core looks to be the deepest it's been in years
 
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