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Créé par: pens1991

Équipe: 2022-23 Penguins de Pittsburgh

Date de création initiale: 9 févr. 2023

Publié: 22 févr. 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Pens are cooked for this season, this is purely to try and land Meier for longer term.

The most recent reports on Meier's price tag were a first and basically two prospects. Devils were/are the lead team but SJ wants Dawson Mercer, a first and apparently Holtz or Bahl. However, devils refuse to make Mercer available and supposedly will back out if SJ doesn't budge.

To me that opens the door and puts pressure on the Sharks new and first time GM Grier to get a trade of some kind done to get value back knowing Meier would most likely go to FA if he finishes the year in SJ.

Could change the 2nd RD from 24 to 23 if needed.

Transactions

PIT

Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (ARI)

ARI

Légaré, Nathan
McGinn, Brock
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NJD)

Détails additionnels:

Could also waive McGinn to clear the cap space

PIT

Meier, Timo (2 500 000 $ retained)

SJS

Hållander, Filip
Smith, Ty
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)

PIT

Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK)

LAK

Zucker, Jason (2 750 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

Kings have the cap space and Zucker fits into their style well, immediate upgrade on their left side. Doughty, Kopitar and Quick are aging and that puts the kings in Win now mode.

Rachats de contrats

Jack Johnson: 1 916 667 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Jason Zucker: 2 750 000 $ (50%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	73 603 092 $	0 $	82 500 $	8 896 908 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Guentzel, Jake 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 2	Crosby, Sidney 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C NMC UFA - 3	Rakell, Rickard 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 6
Meier, Timo 500 000 $500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Malkin, Evgeni 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ C NMC UFA - 4	Rust, Bryan 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 6
Heinen, Danton 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	O'Connor, Drew 750 000 $750 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Kapanen, Kasperi 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Poehling, Ryan 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Blueger, Teddy 2 200 000 $2 200 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Archibald, Josh 900 000 $900 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Puustinen, Valtteri 842 500 $842 500 $ (82 500 $$82K) AD, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Dumoulin, Brian 4 100 000 $4 100 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1	Petry, Jeff 2 343 750 $2 343 750 $ DD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Jarry, Tristan 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ G UFA - 1
Pettersson, Marcus 4 025 175 $4 025 175 $ DG UFA - 3	Letang, Kris 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 6	DeSmith, Casey 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ G UFA - 2
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier 825 000 $825 000 $ DG RFA - 2	Rutta, Jan 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 3
	Ruhwedel, Chad 800 000 $800 000 $ DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Carter, Jeff 3 125 000 $3 125 000 $ AD, C NMC UFA - 2

22 févr. 2023 à 12 h 48

KDev

Rejoint: juin 2022

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I seriously doubt the sharks even consider that offer when NJ, Carolina, St Louis, Winnipeg and even Vegas have better packages they can offer that easily beat this. Unless that 1st ends up in the top 16 this deal is beat imo

22 févr. 2023 à 12 h 50

JSEB93

Rejoint: mai 2022

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Am I crazy or if the Pens somehow miraculously get Meier, why would they trade Zucker instead of going all in?

22 févr. 2023 à 12 h 50

pens1991

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pens1991

Rejoint: juill. 2022

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Quoting: KDev

please read my description. A lot of GMs have started noting that the asking price for Meier is far too much, (NJ And Toronto as of recent) that's going to play against the Sharks and their GM is a first time GM, he'll get pressure to move Meier for pieces. It could still easily go to NJ but if he doesn't back down on his asking price NJ will walk away.

22 févr. 2023 à 12 h 52

pens1991

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pens1991

Rejoint: juill. 2022

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Quoting: JSEB93

Am I crazy or if the Pens somehow miraculously get Meier, why would they trade Zucker instead of going all in?

Hextall claims he doesn't want to give up a 1st in a trade, if zucker nets a 1st in return. Meier doesn't make the team this year better b/c the bottom 6 is awful, but it sets up for a better eyar next year.

22 févr. 2023 à 12 h 53

papishark

Rejoint: août 2019

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Big leap in logic from "you wont get Mercer" to "Take our scraps or lose him for free"

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22 févr. 2023 à 12 h 55

Sjbackseatgm

Rejoint: janv. 2023

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Quoting: papishark

Big leap in logic from "you wont get Mercer" to "Take our scraps or lose him for free"

You will take these scraps and you will like it! LMAO

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22 févr. 2023 à 12 h 57

AStovetop

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Rejoint: juill. 2017

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Quoting: pens1991

Yes their asking price is high, so why would they go for the lowest offer (this one) instead of the next best? NJs 3rd or 4th best offer still easily beats this.

He is also an RFA with a QO that the Sharks can easily match. Grier has said, if they don't get an offer they really like, they're not going to just settle.

22 févr. 2023 à 13 h 4

pens1991

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pens1991

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Quoting: papishark

Big leap in logic from "you wont get Mercer" to "Take our scraps or lose him for free"

not saying they're scraps, other teams definitely have better prospects, but the possibility of a deal not getting done grows each day with GMs actively coming out and saying "Yeah they're asking too much for Meier and we aren't interested anymore". Leafs were going to try and passed, and the Devils are currently saying they won't give up what the sharks want. Not saying "this deal would absolutely happen" for the penguins, it's a what if with my logic being that other teams are starting to go away b/c the price.
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22 févr. 2023 à 13 h 6

JSEB93

Rejoint: mai 2022

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Quoting: pens1991

I'm pretty sure he said he doesn't want to give up a first to dump cap - not necessarily that he doesn't want to give it up to get a better player. I mean - Meier obviously makes this team better this year. You can't really argue against that. Plus getting a top 6 winger makes the bottom 6 better by default. And it's really just the 3rd line that's the issue - the 4th line of Poehling/Blueger/Archibald is more than fine.

Roll out Meier/Malkin/Kapanen as your 2nd line and Zucker/DOC/Rust as your 3rd. Idk, in my opinion if you're trading for a big name player - might as well go all in

22 févr. 2023 à 13 h 14

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Hockeyfan1234

Rejoint: juin 2022

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Quoting: KDev

Able to and willing to are two completely different things. No way should the pens be offering their first unless it’s lottery protected. And since they are essentially “selling” by trading Zucker, they should absolutely be trading the kings 1st, not the pens 1st. The sharks would be nuts not to take that cause I don’t see any team offering that unless they have a contract extension in place because his QO is awful.

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