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Leaf fans do not want Holl here is the answer

Créé par: Rocket_Rusty
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 16 févr. 2023
Publié: 16 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Minor changes! Keep the firsts, especially the 2023 first. Little better D. Little better bottom 6. Up to the core 4 to score on the power play. They hit 25% or better on the PP against Tampa Bay, they go to the second round.
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16 févr. 2023 à 2 h 49
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Luke Schenn is a bottom pairing D-man. The whole reason why some Leafs fans want Holl gone is because 1) his costly mistakes (every Dman makes mistakes and if the team losses then it is costly), 2) he's viewed as being way out of his depth, he's playing 20 minutes, some view him was a 4th D others as a 5th, maybe even a 6th.

So paying more for Schenn won't make anyone happy. It's not a solution, nor is sitting Giordano.

The solution is Holl himself or Timmins.
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16 févr. 2023 à 3 h 14
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I like Holl. Of course I also liked Ceci. They both played the toughest minutes where any mistake is costly, in the Leaf zone. They were both top pair PK and top pair defensive zone starts.
Addd in they are D all the way. You are not going to get any scoring from them. Just solid D minutes.

Muzzin played far worse last year than Holl and the media didn't say a word. He also coughed up the puck on the series winning goal. Not a peep. It is was Holl???

Holl and Ceci are both good D. Every D, every forward will cough up the puck at the worst times.
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16 févr. 2023 à 3 h 29
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Schenn isn’t much better than Holl. Leafs may as well kick tires on Fabbro. Maybe Sandin a B prospect and a pick gets it done
16 févr. 2023 à 6 h 45
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Quoting: Rocket_Rusty
I like Holl. Of course I also liked Ceci. They both played the toughest minutes where any mistake is costly, in the Leaf zone. They were both top pair PK and top pair defensive zone starts.
Addd in they are D all the way. You are not going to get any scoring from them. Just solid D minutes.

Muzzin played far worse last year than Holl and the media didn't say a word. He also coughed up the puck on the series winning goal. Not a peep. It is was Holl???

Holl and Ceci are both good D. Every D, every forward will cough up the puck at the worst times.


Ceci was much worse than Holl. Still is
16 févr. 2023 à 6 h 46
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Schenn isn’t much better than Holl. Leafs may as well kick tires on Fabbro. Maybe Sandin a B prospect and a pick gets it done


What has Fabro done that Sandin doesn't do? Fabbro isn't an no upgrade
16 févr. 2023 à 6 h 46
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Quoting: GMBL
Luke Schenn is a bottom pairing D-man. The whole reason why some Leafs fans want Holl gone is because 1) his costly mistakes (every Dman makes mistakes and if the team losses then it is costly), 2) he's viewed as being way out of his depth, he's playing 20 minutes, some view him was a 4th D others as a 5th, maybe even a 6th.

So paying more for Schenn won't make anyone happy. It's not a solution, nor is sitting Giordano.

The solution is Holl himself or Timmins.


Or you get someone better than Holl or Timmins. Who that is? No I have no idea.
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16 févr. 2023 à 7 h 3
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Schenn isn’t much better than Holl. Leafs may as well kick tires on Fabbro. Maybe Sandin a B prospect and a pick gets it done


GM likes Holl too much. I doubt he's traded.
16 févr. 2023 à 7 h 4
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Leafs left with 1 pick in this year's draft after getting knocked out by Tampa again. 🤭
16 févr. 2023 à 8 h 38
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Quoting: ChadLucifer
Schenn isn’t much better than Holl. Leafs may as well kick tires on Fabbro. Maybe Sandin a B prospect and a pick gets it done


he isnt better than holl
16 févr. 2023 à 8 h 43
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Or you get someone better than Holl or Timmins. Who that is? No I have no idea.


Tyler Myers? Kidding.

Unlikely, that they do unless they don't want to add up front.
 
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