Quoting: RazWild
1) Fiala could easily have been kept. It would simply have required Guerin to move out 3-4 players and their contracts to get it done.
The notion or idea that Minnesota couldn’t fit him in, is a idiotic one at best. They very easily could have. But Guerin chose instead to keep his teams depth intact over one player, and subsequently only making one move versus multiple. Which means less work involved for him as an NHL GM.
Don't confuse that with having to move him. Because that's two very different things.
2) Good for you, don't care. This is about his value, not whether he is available.
3) I don't care one bit about Barbashev, because he's irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
Your comment centered on Buchnevich, and what you thought his value was. I responded giving a comparable player, albeit better, who was traded recently for much less than what you said Buchnevich was worth. Then I asked why you think it's possible that Buchnevich could possibly get more than what Fiala did. I then gave my reasons as to why I disagreed.
That's the discussion at hand.
Moving out 3-4 contracts over the past 2-3 seasons due to the stagnant cap has been pretty troublesome for a lot of GMs. Part of the reason why Tarasenko wasn't taken in the expansion draft (and Vince Dunn also being available).
The reason Barbashev was brought up was because one poster was confusing what the reported ask for Barbashev has been which i'm not really sure where that came from because the only reported ask was Kevin Weekes speculating what he thought he could return. The whole point of bring Barbashev into it has to do with trying to correct someone who's mixing up Barby and Buchnevich. I'm not sure if you jumped in and input your opinion without clearly reading everything or what.
Fiala being better than Buchnevich is a very opinionated statement. They both pace near a ppg and have for the last 2-3 seasons. Fiala has stayed a bit healthier, but Fiala also doesn't man the PK like Buchnevich does.
Alot of the speculation on why Fiala was moved was mainly due to his attitude and relationship with the Wilds coach. There are no disputes with Buchnevich that have ever come to light. He's been pretty much only been reported by Blues reporters as one of the locker room favorites (although take that as you will could be pretty bias observation from hometown analysts).
Blues have no reason to move Buchnevich, nor should they. He is contracted for 2 seasons after this at 5.4m playing PP and PK and playing at a ppg. Would we love for him to be a little more healthy? Sure, but not going to knock him too much on that. Fiala was an RFA at the time he was traded and immediately signed a contract. His cap hit is alot harder for teams to fit, at this moment, than Buchnevich's. That being said, it's a pretty valuable contract given the term with the cap starting to rise again. Regardless, the situations of when Fiala was traded and right now with people asking on a fantasy board what it would cost for buchnevich are wildly different.
As for whether for the debate between Toews and O'Reilly on your next post. Toews has a full NMC. He will only be traded if he wants to go, where he wants to go. O'Reilly does not. Factor that in with the additional 2m in cap hit for Toews vs ROR along with the additional salary involved that would have to move (ROR has a 1m base salary, Toews has a 2.9m base salary) yes it's going to be a bit more costly to add in a 3rd party team for double retention on Toews vs ROR. Also, if you're wanting to look at this season as the only measuring mark on what a player is be my guest. I can assure you General Managers will not have the same line of thinking. If you want to put the blame solely on ROR this season by looking at purely stats be my guest. You are vastly overlooking how awful our d core has been at moving the puck and closing out the front of the net.
I'm not saying Toews is a bad player, but there are alot of factors that attribute into his terrible season last season and RORs terrible season this season aside from just looking at stats and saying that guy sucks.
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