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Getting Brayden Schenn 23-24

Créé par: Ichbinian
Équipe: 2023-24 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 13 févr. 2023
Publié: 13 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
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BOS
  1. Schenn, Brayden
Détails additionnels:
Draft day deal
STL
  1. Coyle, Charlie
  2. Reilly, Mike
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
STL gets a similar-aged player with less years on the books
2.
PHI
  1. Harrison, Brett
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
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13 févr. 2023 à 12 h 51
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Few things - you’re over the cap
You’re over the cap by a mile once you factor in the performance bonus overage for krejci and bergeron - lightly to be in the 2.5-4.5 mill range.
Teams don’t use 20 man rosters. It’s not a thing
Why is Scott Laughton worth half of that?
8 years at 850K for wags?
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13 févr. 2023 à 12 h 56
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Not trading our future captain for this. Would need a 1st, Lysell and Coyle at least. Schenn does too much for the Blues and I don't think they move him unless it's a big package.
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13 févr. 2023 à 13 h 14
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Not trading our future captain for this. Would need a 1st, Lysell and Coyle at least. Schenn does too much for the Blues and I don't think they move him unless it's a big package.


A firsts and lysell is a lot but yea a first or lysell plus
13 févr. 2023 à 13 h 23
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
Few things - you’re over the cap
You’re over the cap by a mile once you factor in the performance bonus overage for krejci and bergeron - lightly to be in the 2.5-4.5 mill range.
Teams don’t use 20 man rosters. It’s not a thing
Why is Scott Laughton worth half of that?
8 years at 850K for wags?


My guess is he forgot to change the years for Wagner after signing pastrnak.

Spot on with the rest
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13 févr. 2023 à 13 h 23
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Don’t want that schenn contract.
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13 févr. 2023 à 13 h 37
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
Few things - you’re over the cap
You’re over the cap by a mile once you factor in the performance bonus overage for krejci and bergeron - lightly to be in the 2.5-4.5 mill range.
Teams don’t use 20 man rosters. It’s not a thing
Why is Scott Laughton worth half of that?
8 years at 850K for wags?


Thanks for your charitable tone, which is rare on this forum.
1- yes I realize that - I'm not trying to be * exact *
2- I guess I thought CapFriendly automatically builds those in. But why would there be bonuses when Krecji and Bergeron aren't returning in this 23-24 scenario?
3- again, not being exact
4- are you saying Laughton isn't worth a late 1st?
5- meant to be a 1 yr deal
13 févr. 2023 à 13 h 45
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Quoting: Fozziebear6
Not trading our future captain for this. Would need a 1st, Lysell and Coyle at least. Schenn does too much for the Blues and I don't think they move him unless it's a big package.


Quoting: Ichbinian
Thanks for your charitable tone, which is rare on this forum.
1- yes I realize that - I'm not trying to be * exact *
2- I guess I thought CapFriendly automatically builds those in. But why would there be bonuses when Krecji and Bergeron aren't returning in this 23-24 scenario?
3- again, not being exact
4- are you saying Laughton isn't worth a late 1st?
5- meant to be a 1 yr deal


Wrong. If the Blues could get someone to take Schenn's or Krug's contract, they would jump at it.
13 févr. 2023 à 13 h 52
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Sure!
13 févr. 2023 à 14 h 5
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Quoting: Ichbinian
Thanks for your charitable tone, which is rare on this forum.
1- yes I realize that - I'm not trying to be * exact *
2- I guess I thought CapFriendly automatically builds those in. But why would there be bonuses when Krecji and Bergeron aren't returning in this 23-24 scenario?
3- again, not being exact
4- are you saying Laughton isn't worth a late 1st?
5- meant to be a 1 yr deal


1. i guess if it’s not feasible, i Just don’t see the point. The cap is the cap. It’s an exact number. In order for it to work, it needs to be under that number.
2. Well they can’t build in bonus overages. The reason the bruins signed bergeron and krejci to those incentive contracts was because there’s a bonus cushion, and you’re allowed to go over the cap by that amount. However, if you do go over the cap, there’s a penalty the following season for the same amount the team is over by. The bruins have done this before, with Iginla and Chara. I believe Bergeron and Krejci have both already hit their bonuses. The reason capfriendly can’t just factor that in, is we don’t know how much they’ll exceed the cap by. The bruins could clear up $4M in cap space tomorrow and it wouldn’t be an issue, or they could be right up against it and there would be a $4.5M penalty the following season.
3. See 1. It has to be to be feasible.
4. Yes. I am definitely saying that. And definitely not a late first and the bruins best C prospect. I also just see no benefit to acquiring the player.
13 févr. 2023 à 14 h 7
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That is a comically brutal offer for Schenn. Not even in the ballpark's zip code.
13 févr. 2023 à 14 h 8
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Wrong. If the Blues could get someone to take Schenn's or Krug's contract, they would jump at it.


Krug, probably. Schenn, unlikely.
13 févr. 2023 à 14 h 23
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Krug, probably. Schenn, unlikely.


Schenn is 31 and has 6 years after this year. It's going to make is look like Backes faded gracefully...
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13 févr. 2023 à 14 h 42
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Schenn is 31 and has 6 years after this year. It's going to make is look like Backes faded gracefully...


Well, for starters, Backes was already into his fade by this age, but any way you see it unfolding, the offer above certainly ain't getting him. It barely saves them any $$. It's a trash offer.
13 févr. 2023 à 14 h 43
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Laughton does so many things for the Flyers but if that packaged were offered i would do it. I can actually see BOS acquiring Hayes though before Laughton. Especially with the uncertainty come next year.
13 févr. 2023 à 14 h 58
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Well, for starters, Backes was already into his fade by this age, but any way you see it unfolding, the offer above certainly ain't getting him. It barely saves them any $$. It's a trash offer.


Coyle has 3 years left. Schenn has 6. You need to take your Blues glasses off on this one. If Doug didn’t accept it, he should be fired.
13 févr. 2023 à 15 h 5
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Coyle has 3 years left. Schenn has 6. You need to take your Blues glasses off on this one. If Doug didn’t accept it, he should be fired.


Schenn has five years left after this one. And in three years' time, the cap will be much higher (and Schenn will only have a 15-team NT list as opposed to the full NTC he has now). The decidedly main concern is this summer and it's not even close. No other year on the calendar is as important from a cap standpoint. And this summer, it doesn;t save us much.
13 févr. 2023 à 15 h 25
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Blues decline. Schenn is an important leader for us and a veteran presence. He also is still a good player. He had 58 points in 62 games last year. This year he has 39 points in 52 games. He is still very useful for us whether we do a retool or a rebuild. The pieces you are trading us provide us with zero value. We already have Krug, Leddy, Scandella, Rosen, Tucker, and Perunovich on the left side. We don't have room or a need for Reilly. So he's a waste of cap space and a roster space. While Coyle does have the shorter contract I'd rather have Schenn over Coyle especially from 2023-2026. Schenn having 2 more years doesn't really bother me because he is the better player and is a leader in our locker room. The 3rd and 4th round picks are worthless. All in all a terrible deal for the blues
13 févr. 2023 à 15 h 52
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Schenn has five years left after this one. And in three years' time, the cap will be much higher (and Schenn will only have a 15-team NT list as opposed to the full NTC he has now). The decidedly main concern is this summer and it's not even close. No other year on the calendar is as important from a cap standpoint. And this summer, it doesn;t save us much.


Ok - touche on the 5 years - read it wrong since CF showed an arrow pointing right after last year. I like Schenn. I don't think he's the next captain though if ROR not on team next year. I think they go with Thomas. I would still trade Schenn if could.
13 févr. 2023 à 15 h 56
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Ok - touche on the 5 years - read it wrong since CF showed an arrow pointing right after last year. I like Schenn. I don't think he's the next captain though if ROR not on team next year. I think they go with Thomas. I would still trade Schenn if could.


I'd trade Schenn for a suitable offer. And I'm also not super high on him being the next captain as his play in the D zone has been abysmal this season. Everyone rags on ROR or Kyrou, but Schenn is been brutal in our zone. So many mistakes that go in our net. It's annoying me.

As for RobTom, I think he needs another season or two to be ready. Let him fully develop as a player first, and then we'll start adding extra weight on his shoulders. My 2 cents anyway.
13 févr. 2023 à 16 h 38
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Boston would rather have Coyle
 
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