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Créé par: vikhodush
Équipe: 2022-23 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 9 févr. 2023
Publié: 9 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
The first two trades have been on here a lot - not sure if values are perfect but hopefully in ball park.

Bennett I've seen a couple of times in the past but not too much. I doubt Florida is willing to move him, but assuming they did what would be the ask? Again, very doubtful move but these teams do have a history of trading together and even trading for a 2C w/ term very surprisingly..plus Panthers have shown they're willing to shake things up quite a bit. This doesn't help them this year obviously but if they're not gaining in the playoff race this sets them up for a super quick re-tool for next year. Just a thought, hope nobody gets bent out of shape over it :)
Transactions
1.
CAR
  1. Meier, Timo (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
8x8.5ish extension
SJS
  1. Morrow, Scott [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
Is this enough? Tried looking at recent similar examples (Cat, Fiala) and think this is in the ballpark of those moves
2.
STL
  1. Coghlan, Dylan
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (CAR)
3.
CAR
  1. Bennett, Sam
Détails additionnels:
Probably not likely unless they really fall out of the race and want to go a different route but these teams have a history of surprising trades of 2Cs w/ term out of nowhere :)
FLA
  1. Drury, Jack
  2. Honka, Anttoni
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
No idea what it would cost - assuming Panthers are open to moving him what would it cost?
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $79 441 917 $112 500 $1 000 000 $3 058 083 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 7
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
4 425 000 $4 425 000 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 820 000 $4 820 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 1

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9 févr. 2023 à 12 h 24
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Umm the Blues might bite on that. Depends on how good a 23 pick he can fetch.
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9 févr. 2023 à 12 h 25
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Umm the Blues might bite on that. Depends on how good a 23 pick he can fetch.


I initially planned to send a 23 3rd but already moved a couple of picks in ‘23 before making the Mikk trade so I tried spacing it out a bit. Figured ‘25 isn’t super appealing but I’d be open to doing a different pick.
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That's certainly going all in for a couple of years at the expense of futures. Canes are one of few good team that could do it though with their future cap.
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9 févr. 2023 à 12 h 27
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I think that’s a lot to spend on a guy like Bennett. He is a good player but everyone in Florida has inflated numbers last year. Not sure you see another 28 goal season from Bennett. That’s a lot to give for a guy who will most likely be a 45-50 point guy but the term is a positive
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9 févr. 2023 à 12 h 33
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That's certainly going all in for a couple of years at the expense of futures. Canes are one of few good team that could do it though with their future cap.


Yeah it’s Somewhat mortgaging the future and all of these are unlikely. Maybe one of the two big moves I mentioned happen (or a variation). To your point tho it still lets us keep the core and add a couple big pieces to it that fit Long term timeline too
9 févr. 2023 à 12 h 34
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I think that’s a lot to spend on a guy like Bennett. He is a good player but everyone in Florida has inflated numbers last year. Not sure you see another 28 goal season from Bennett. That’s a lot to give for a guy who will most likely be a 45-50 point guy but the term is a positive


That’s fair. I wasn’t really sure what the cost would be there. Imagine it’s more than what we paid in the Tro deal since he wasn’t coming off of good years like Bennett was. Maybe it’s something between that deal and this offer?
9 févr. 2023 à 14 h 27
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I don't think Morrow is going to be on the table for any kind of trade, not even Meier, though a prospect + a whole bunch of picks sounds good. I think it'll be a guy like Gunler or Ponomarev.
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9 févr. 2023 à 15 h 11
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I don't think Morrow is going to be on the table for any kind of trade, not even Meier, though a prospect + a whole bunch of picks sounds good. I think it'll be a guy like Gunler or Ponomarev.


If we can make it happen without him or Nikishin I’d be thrilled. But also not opposed to throwing one of them in for a guy like Meier.
14 févr. 2023 à 14 h 48
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If we can make it happen without him or Nikishin I’d be thrilled. But also not opposed to throwing one of them in for a guy like Meier.


Oh for sure. I would hope that the Canes would be willing to dangle a top prospect for Meier, even if it's Morrow (as much as I want to hold on to him). I just think that GMDW and co value Morrow more than that. I really think it would be a forwrd prospect. San Jose's forward group is looking rather thin at present and their futures up front are even more so.
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Oh for sure. I would hope that the Canes would be willing to dangle a top prospect for Meier, even if it's Morrow (as much as I want to hold on to him). I just think that GMDW and co value Morrow more than that. I really think it would be a forwrd prospect. San Jose's forward group is looking rather thin at present and their futures up front are even more so.


Based on recent interviews with GMDW and RBA it seems like canes are willing to make a big move for one player and dangle pieces like this years first or morrow for it. Based on some comments on threads on here plus what I’ve read the sharks biggest prospect needs are on the back end which is why they’d prefer morrow or Nikishin over guys like Gunler Blake Drury Gleb etc. Few guys said they’d prefer morrow to Jarvis even. Not that I’d want to include Jarvis in this deal.
 
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