SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Rangers trade

Créé par: Sabres1973
Équipe: 2022-23 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 18 janv. 2023
Publié: 18 janv. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
2925 000 $
3925 000 $
2925 000 $
Transactions
1.
2.
MIN
  1. Mittelstadt, Casey
  2. Weissbach, Linus
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VGK)
3.
BUF
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (STL)
4.
BUF
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de PHI
Logo de LAK
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de STL
Logo de BUF
2024
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
2025
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
Logo de BUF
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $62 843 334 $0 $6 870 000 $19 656 666 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
855 833 $855 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AG, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance412 500 $$412K)
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 641 667 $3 641 667 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
837 500 $837 500 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
687 500 $687 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 916 667 $4 916 667 $
G
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner
18 janv. 2023 à 16 h 5
#1
mokumboi
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2019
Messages: 29,233
Mentions "j'aime": 11,339
Well, there's four resounding no's.
OldNYIfan et Goalie a aimé ceci.
18 janv. 2023 à 16 h 6
#2
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2015
Messages: 556
Mentions "j'aime": 108
Quoting: mokumboi
Well, there's four resounding no's.


What is wrong with the rangers trade.?
gretzkyghosts et Goalie a aimé ceci.
18 janv. 2023 à 16 h 10
#3
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2015
Messages: 556
Mentions "j'aime": 108
Quoting: mokumboi
Well, there's four resounding no's.


I’m just trying to find something that works for both teams. With the same 3 players from the rangers you make a offer to the Sabres
gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
18 janv. 2023 à 16 h 12
#4
Future Norris guy
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2022
Messages: 15,605
Mentions "j'aime": 8,623
Quoting: Sabres1973
What is wrong with the rangers trade.?


First off the Rangers aren't trading Schneider, Seriously doubt Goodrow waives for Buffalo. And it takes far better pieces to get Alexis Lafreniere out of New York.
OldNYIfan, Fox_Czar_Cup et mokumboi a aimé ceci.
18 janv. 2023 à 16 h 14
#5
Once a Kings Fan Too
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2018
Messages: 40,292
Mentions "j'aime": 25,195
Quoting: Sabres1973
What is wrong with the rangers trade?

Goodrow is worth more than the late-maturing Asplund, the slow-developing LaFreniere is still worth more than Ostlund, and Schneider is worth way more than Olofsson and Jokiharju.
mokumboi et Fox_Czar_Cup a aimé ceci.
18 janv. 2023 à 16 h 20
#6
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2015
Messages: 556
Mentions "j'aime": 108
Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
First off the Rangers aren't trading Schneider, Seriously doubt Goodrow waives for Buffalo. And it takes far better pieces to get Alexis Lafreniere out of New York.


Why. Olosffson would be on your top line asplund is a great penalty killer and a solid forward who is just redundant on our team. Henri is a top 4 right handed young defender and ostlund is a #16 pick center I believe from this past years draft. Seams like a pretty good deal for laff who is not a good skater and has struggled every year in his career I think the Sabres could add a mid round pick but that’s about it. I get with Schneider if you just don’t want to trade him but this trade would make your team better
gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
18 janv. 2023 à 16 h 26
#7
Future Norris guy
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2022
Messages: 15,605
Mentions "j'aime": 8,623
Quoting: Sabres1973
Why. Olosffson would be on your top line asplund is a great penalty killer and a solid forward who is just redundant on our team. Henri is a top 4 right handed young defender and ostlund is a #16 pick center I believe from this past years draft. Seams like a pretty good deal for laff who is not a good skater and has struggled every year in his career I think the Sabres could add a mid round pick but that’s about it. I get with Schneider if you just don’t want to trade him but this trade would make your team better


Perhaps this is true with Buffalo, But it might not be the case with the Rangers for those players. Why would the Rangers even need Henri when they've Fox, Trouba and Schneider on the rightside. Olofsson would be a 3rd liner with the Rangers not top 6 like Buffalo. like i said this makes no sense for New York.
Fox_Czar_Cup et mokumboi a aimé ceci.
18 janv. 2023 à 16 h 27
#8
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2015
Messages: 556
Mentions "j'aime": 108
Quoting: OldNYIfan
Goodrow is worth more than the late-maturing Asplund, the slow-developing LaFreniere is still worth more than Ostlund, and Schneider is worth way more than Olofsson and Jokiharju.


Quoting: OldNYIfan
Goodrow is worth more than the late-maturing Asplund, the slow-developing LaFreniere is still worth more than Ostlund, and Schneider is worth way more than Olofsson and Jokiharju.

Goodrow is not worth more than asplund especially with his contract. Olosffson has 19 goals 14 eve strength and would be better yet if he was used on first power play. Jokiharju is a solid top 4 right shot defender. Buffalo might have to add a little but not much. It’s a good starting point. All you ranger fans only ever say no this trade sucks but don’t ever offer up your side
gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
18 janv. 2023 à 16 h 30
#9
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2015
Messages: 556
Mentions "j'aime": 108
Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Perhaps this is true with Buffalo, But it might not be the case with the Rangers for those players. Why would the Rangers even need Henri when they've Fox, Trouba and Schneider on the rightside. Olofsson would be a 3rd liner with the Rangers not top 6 like Buffalo. like i said this makes no sense for New York.


Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Perhaps this is true with Buffalo, But it might not be the case with the Rangers for those players. Why would the Rangers even need Henri when they've Fox, Trouba and Schneider on the rightside. Olofsson would be a 3rd liner with the Rangers not top 6 like Buffalo. like i said this makes no sense for New York.

Olofsson is better than kakko come on. Don’t embarrass yourself
gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
18 janv. 2023 à 16 h 33
#10
Future Norris guy
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2022
Messages: 15,605
Mentions "j'aime": 8,623
Modifié 18 janv. 2023 à 19 h 14
Quoting: Sabres1973
Olofsson is better than kakko come on. Don’t embarrass yourself


Olofsson was pretty much a beneficiary of Jack Eichel.

And both Kakko and Lafreniere are being underutilized in New York.
OldNYIfan et Fox_Czar_Cup a aimé ceci.
18 janv. 2023 à 16 h 34
#11
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 3,629
Mentions "j'aime": 1,515
Once Drury stops laughing, he says NO THANKS and hangs up. Schneider and Laffy are both unavailable for trade and not interested in trading Goodrow.
Fox_Czar_Cup et mokumboi a aimé ceci.
18 janv. 2023 à 16 h 38
#12
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2015
Messages: 556
Mentions "j'aime": 108
Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Olofsson was pretty much a benefactor of Jack Eichel.

And both Kakko and Lafreniere are being underutilized in New York.

Jack eichel hasn’t Been here in a year how are his numbers now a result of jack eichel? He is having his best year as a pro. Do some research you just embarrassing yourself again this statement you made makes no sense
gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
18 janv. 2023 à 16 h 41
#13
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2015
Messages: 556
Mentions "j'aime": 108
Quoting: delneggs
Once Drury stops laughing, he says NO THANKS and hangs up. Schneider and Laffy are both unavailable for trade and not interested in trading Goodrow.


Hahaha well maybe you should talk to drury then because he is interested In trading them. It has been reported he is shopping them.
gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
18 janv. 2023 à 16 h 44
#14
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 3,629
Mentions "j'aime": 1,515
Quoting: Sabres1973
Hahaha well maybe you should talk to drury then because he is interested In trading them. It has been reported he is shopping them.


In your dreams
Fox_Czar_Cup a aimé ceci.
18 janv. 2023 à 16 h 59
#15
Once a Kings Fan Too
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2018
Messages: 40,292
Mentions "j'aime": 25,195
Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Olofsson was pretty much a benefactor of Jack Eichel.

And both Kakko and Lafreniere are being underutilized in New York.


beneficiary, not benefactor.

but otherwise 100% accurate
18 janv. 2023 à 17 h 19
#16
Once a Kings Fan Too
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2018
Messages: 40,292
Mentions "j'aime": 25,195
Quoting: Sabres1973
Goodrow is not worth more than asplund especially with his contract. Olosffson has 19 goals 14 eve strength and would be better yet if he was used on first power play. Jokiharju is a solid top 4 right shot defender. Buffalo might have to add a little but not much. It’s a good starting point. All you ranger fans only ever say no this trade sucks but don’t ever offer up your side

How can you say that Asplund, who scores at the rate of 0.3 pts per game, is better than a proven veteran with extensive playoff experience who is good on both sides of the puck and scores at better than 0.4 pts per game over a much longer career? We in Los Angeles (contrary to your accusation, I'm not a Rangers fan) have an almost perfect comparable to Asplund -- Carl Grundstrom. Born two days apart and both drafted in the second round, one has 46 points in 166 games and the other has 49 points in 162 games; NY wouldn't trade either even up for Goodrow except possibly for cap reasons, which don't apply here.

If Olofsson is so good that he would be a reliable scoring threat on the power play, why isn't your coach playing him there?

Jokiharju is a solid top 4 right shot defender who has about half the value of the superior top 4 right shot defender Braden Schneider.

The reason why the Rangers guys don't make you a counter-offer with that package is because you're no more about to trade Dahlin or Power than they are to trade LaFreniere or Schneider.
Fox_Czar_Cup a aimé ceci.
18 janv. 2023 à 17 h 59
#17
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2022
Messages: 2,044
Mentions "j'aime": 1,375
Quoting: OldNYIfan

The reason why the Rangers guys don't make you a counter-offer with that package is because you're no more about to trade Dahlin or Power than they are to trade LaFreniere or Schneider.

So you are comparing Dahlin and Power to Lafreniere and Schneider in term on untouchable assets ?
gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
18 janv. 2023 à 18 h 10
#18
Once a Kings Fan Too
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2018
Messages: 40,292
Mentions "j'aime": 25,195
Quoting: Czu8iks
So you are comparing Dahlin and Power to Lafreniere and Schneider in term on untouchable assets ?

No, nothing like that. I'm saying that the OP won't get the counter-offer he is asking for (which must include those three Rangers) because the only Buffalo players NY needs and would ask for in return are superior quality LhDs and Buffalo isn't about to trade either of them.
Fox_Czar_Cup et gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
18 janv. 2023 à 19 h 9
#19
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2018
Messages: 5,352
Mentions "j'aime": 4,799
Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Perhaps this is true with Buffalo, But it might not be the case with the Rangers for those players. Why would the Rangers even need Henri when they've Fox, Trouba and Schneider on the rightside. Olofsson would be a 3rd liner with the Rangers not top 6 like Buffalo. like i said this makes no sense for New York.
Quoting: Sabres1973
Olofsson is better than kakko come on. Don’t embarrass yourself
Quoting: delneggs
Once Drury stops laughing, he says NO THANKS and hangs up. Schneider and Laffy are both unavailable for trade and not interested in trading Goodrow.
Quoting: OldNYIfan
beneficiary, not benefactor. but otherwise 100% accurate
Quoting: Czu8iks
So you are comparing Dahlin and Power to Lafreniere and Schneider in term on untouchable assets ?
First, I am so happy that every one thinks that is not enough going to the Rangers, as a Buffalo fan they should not be making this trade.
Second, Eichel has not played one game for the Sabres this year, yet Olofsson had 18 goals, and only 17 NHL wingers (left or right) have more goals than that. That is top line quality my friends, playing third line minutes.
Third, Olofsson over the past three years has only 19 fewer goals than Lafrenière has POINTS.
Olofsson is not a top 6 winger this year playing only 14 min/gm on the same line with Jost and Mittelstadt, a waiver claim and what many consider a bust are his line mates, hardly top six quality.
Fourth, Jokiharju plays more minutes than ANY other RHD D-man for the Sabres this year and last year only Dahlin played more minutes than he. He has developed into a solid defensive RHD who over his career matches Schneider scoring capabilities.
Fifth, let's agree Goodrow, is a solid defensive forward, but so is Asplund at a forth the price. Last year before Quinn, Peterka and Jost pushed him into the press box, he scored only 6 fewer pts than Barcley.
Finally, use these comparisons
Goodrow with Asplund
Lafrenière with Olofsson
Schneider with Jokiharju
Östlund as a sweetener.

As a Sabre fan I will keep Olofsson's 18 goals as a third line winger over Lafrenière's potential every opportunity I can get.
I know who Jokiharju is and only three Buffalo defensemen play more minutes than his 20 min/gm v Schneider15 min/gm.
I will also keep Östlund and Asplund over Goodrow's $3,641,667 until 2026-27, that cap hit can be spent better elsewhere and is too much for a 3rd or 4th liner.

Bottom line let's all agree this trade does not work for either team and call it a draw, but it is certainly not a terrible offer, just not in the best interest of the Rangers to make the changes.
OldNYIfan, MoSeider53 et ChestNut33 a aimé ceci.
18 janv. 2023 à 19 h 15
#20
Future Norris guy
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2022
Messages: 15,605
Mentions "j'aime": 8,623
Quoting: OldNYIfan
beneficiary, not benefactor.

but otherwise 100% accurate


Yeah thanks i changed it. Meant to say beneficiary over benefactor.
OldNYIfan et gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
18 janv. 2023 à 19 h 26
#21
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 3,629
Mentions "j'aime": 1,515
Quoting: gretzkyghosts
First, I am so happy that every one thinks that is not enough going to the Rangers, as a Buffalo fan they should not be making this trade.
Second, Eichel has not played one game for the Sabres this year, yet Olofsson had 18 goals, and only 17 NHL wingers (left or right) have more goals than that. That is top line quality my friends, playing third line minutes.
Third, Olofsson over the past three years has only 19 fewer goals than Lafrenière has POINTS.
Olofsson is not a top 6 winger this year playing only 14 min/gm on the same line with Jost and Mittelstadt, a waiver claim and what many consider a bust are his line mates, hardly top six quality.
Fourth, Jokiharju plays more minutes than ANY other RHD D-man for the Sabres this year and last year only Dahlin played more minutes than he. He has developed into a solid defensive RHD who over his career matches Schneider scoring capabilities.
Fifth, let's agree Goodrow, is a solid defensive forward, but so is Asplund at a forth the price. Last year before Quinn, Peterka and Jost pushed him into the press box, he scored only 6 fewer pts than Barcley.
Finally, use these comparisons
Goodrow with Asplund
Lafrenière with Olofsson
Schneider with Jokiharju
Östlund as a sweetener.

As a Sabre fan I will keep Olofsson's 18 goals as a third line winger over Lafrenière's potential every opportunity I can get.
I know who Jokiharju is and only three Buffalo defensemen play more minutes than his 20 min/gm v Schneider15 min/gm.
I will also keep Östlund and Asplund over Goodrow's $3,641,667 until 2026-27, that cap hit can be spent better elsewhere and is too much for a 3rd or 4th liner.

Bottom line let's all agree this trade does not work for either team and call it a draw, but it is certainly not a terrible offer, just not in the best interest of the Rangers to make the changes.


Good that you are happy keeping those players because Ranger fans are happy keeping Laffy, Schneider and Goodrow, so everyone is happy with no trade. AWESOME!!
gretzkyghosts et Goalie a aimé ceci.
19 janv. 2023 à 9 h 22
#22
Exhausted Ranger Fan
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2021
Messages: 1,043
Mentions "j'aime": 451
Quoting: Sabres1973
What is wrong with the rangers trade.?


What isn't? the rangers give the better package by a landslide and in return get some eh pieces LOL
mokumboi a aimé ceci.
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage