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TDL Still cant quit TK

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Équipe: 2022-23 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 13 janv. 2023
Publié: 13 janv. 2023
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  1. Olofsson, Victor (1 000 000 $ retained)
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  1. Mittelstadt, Casey
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13 janv. 2023 à 16 h 8
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Playing hinostroza over Krebs is something
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13 janv. 2023 à 16 h 12
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Playing hinostroza over Krebs is something


He just got sent down for a bit...
13 janv. 2023 à 16 h 21
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He just got sent down for a bit...


They are paper transactions to allow us to keep 3 goalies without waiving someone.

They are rotating the waiver exempt forwards

Do you not follow any buffalo hockey media?
13 janv. 2023 à 16 h 32
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They are paper transactions to allow us to keep 3 goalies without waiving someone.

They are rotating the waiver exempt forwards

Do you not follow any buffalo hockey media?


So sorry for the transgression Jerry...
13 janv. 2023 à 17 h 0
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Konecny for a first NEXT YEAR and Mittelstadt, who is shaping up to be a 3rd or 4th liner. The 2nd rounder makes it slightly better, but I think Konecny is worth more than the picks in the 20s and 50s and a so so player who doesn't appear to be improving.
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13 janv. 2023 à 18 h 58
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Konecny for a first NEXT YEAR and Mittelstadt, who is shaping up to be a 3rd or 4th liner. The 2nd rounder makes it slightly better, but I think Konecny is worth more than the picks in the 20s and 50s and a so so player who doesn't appear to be improving.


Mittelstadt is playing in a 3rd line role, and on pace for 50points this year- which is VERY GOOD
Acting like he’s not improved just makes u look silly

It still might not be enough for Philly to trade Konecny
But your characterization of Mitts is just laughable
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13 janv. 2023 à 19 h 0
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More reasonable package for Konecny than your last one
But Philly might just wanna keep him,
unless someone is willing to go overboard in what they offer for him
Idk that he’s realistically available
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13 janv. 2023 à 20 h 46
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Mittelstadt is playing in a 3rd line role, and on pace for 50points this year- which is VERY GOOD
Acting like he’s not improved just makes u look silly

It still might not be enough for Philly to trade Konecny
But your characterization of Mitts is just laughable


11 is currently the magic number. He had 5 points across his first 5 games. He had two games with 3 points, for 11 points in 7 games. He is -11. He has 11 PP points. That's it for 11... but seriously 24 points in 40 games, but nearly half of those points come from the PP. And he only got 13 points across his other 33 games. For a guy who is playing 3rd line minutes, he needs to contribute more (and more consistently) to cover up the fact that he is not good defensively.

You might think I'm trolling here. I'm not. I've seen him play Detroit , and frankly, he is noticeable in the way that he looks out of place. Kubalik is streaky and not good defensively, but he makes up for it by putting up better numbers (30 points, 13 goals) . Kubalik is only minus 9, but splitting hairs there. Kubalik is streaky like Mittlestadt. Both players are similar in a lot of regards, Kubalik being a bit better. If Buffalo had Kubalik instead of Mittlestadt, and Kubalik was being traded in this proposal, I'd still say the same thing.

We all do it. We all like to overrate our bottom 6 guys. Fact is, Mittlestadt is bottom 6, and it won't matter what team he is on, he will be bottom 6 there too. He is an NHLer, sure. But bottom 6 guys have to figure something out, be good at something (usually defense roles or hardworking, but sometimes PP specialist). Mittlestadt doesn't have any tools to set himself apart from other bottom 6. He's ok, and that is ok, but these types of players carry little value, as they can often be found in free agency for cheap.
13 janv. 2023 à 21 h 17
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11 is currently the magic number. He had 5 points across his first 5 games. He had two games with 3 points, for 11 points in 7 games. He is -11. He has 11 PP points. That's it for 11... but seriously 24 points in 40 games, but nearly half of those points come from the PP. And he only got 13 points across his other 33 games. For a guy who is playing 3rd line minutes, he needs to contribute more (and more consistently) to cover up the fact that he is not good defensively.

You might think I'm trolling here. I'm not. I've seen him play Detroit , and frankly, he is noticeable in the way that he looks out of place. Kubalik is streaky and not good defensively, but he makes up for it by putting up better numbers (30 points, 13 goals) . Kubalik is only minus 9, but splitting hairs there. Kubalik is streaky like Mittlestadt. Both players are similar in a lot of regards, Kubalik being a bit better. If Buffalo had Kubalik instead of Mittlestadt, and Kubalik was being traded in this proposal, I'd still say the same thing.

We all do it. We all like to overrate our bottom 6 guys. Fact is, Mittlestadt is bottom 6, and it won't matter what team he is on, he will be bottom 6 there too. He is an NHLer, sure. But bottom 6 guys have to figure something out, be good at something (usually defense roles or hardworking, but sometimes PP specialist). Mittlestadt doesn't have any tools to set himself apart from other bottom 6. He's ok, and that is ok, but these types of players carry little value, as they can often be found in free agency for cheap.


Getting 50points when playing in the bottom6 is VERY GOOD
Idc how/when the points come- it’s better than 90% of the other bottom6 players out there

Is he perfect? Of course not- that’s why he isn’t in the top6
Production counts though- & he produces
Even if it is inconsistent, it still adds up
And it adds up to him producing as one of the best 3rd liners in the league

Find all the reasons he’s not top6 & continue to spout them though, idc

If u don’t want him, that’s fine
But 50points on the 3rd line is VERY GOOD, no matter what other flaws he has
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13 janv. 2023 à 23 h 50
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Quoting: Buffalove
Getting 50points when playing in the bottom6 is VERY GOOD
Idc how/when the points come- it’s better than 90% of the other bottom6 players out there

Is he perfect? Of course not- that’s why he isn’t in the top6
Production counts though- & he produces
Even if it is inconsistent, it still adds up
And it adds up to him producing as one of the best 3rd liners in the league

Find all the reasons he’s not top6 & continue to spout them though, idc

If u don’t want him, that’s fine
But 50points on the 3rd line is VERY GOOD, no matter what other flaws he has


50 points projected. I bet he stops at around 40, but that's all puck luck guessing...like how he had a goal vs Detroit that bounced off him. 50 points is great for a 3rd liner. So is 40, honestly. But 40-50 points and finishing minus 16 to 22 (as long as we are projecting here)? I mean, cmon open your eyes and get rid of the rose shaded glasses. He isn't bad, but he isn't good. Players like Zadina, Puljarvi, even Tippet, all have something to indicate there is a higher ceiling. Mittlestadt just keeps lowering his ceiling.

Sorry pal, your guy is not that good. To put this in perspective for you...Ray Shepard was a 50 goal scorer, and Kris Draper scored a breakaway enough times to top 20 goals once. Draper had uses outside of scoring.. Shep did not. Let's count the rings now, and guess which player is more like Mittelstadt (in principle).
13 janv. 2023 à 23 h 58
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Quoting: Buffalove
Getting 50points when playing in the bottom6 is VERY GOOD
Idc how/when the points come- it’s better than 90% of the other bottom6 players out there

Is he perfect? Of course not- that’s why he isn’t in the top6
Production counts though- & he produces
Even if it is inconsistent, it still adds up
And it adds up to him producing as one of the best 3rd liners in the league

Find all the reasons he’s not top6 & continue to spout them though, idc

If u don’t want him, that’s fine
But 50points on the 3rd line is VERY GOOD, no matter what other flaws he has


And, for the record, I don't hat Mittelstadt. That 2017 draft was weird. I wanted Necas, Liljegren, Mittelstadt...instead we got Rasmussen. While Necas probably is still the better choice, Rasmussen in the last quarter has become something nobody could have predicted...****ing good. I don't expect him to keep the pace, but he is big, he is good defensively, and the offense is coming. Mittelstadt is just kind of there.
14 janv. 2023 à 0 h 29
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50 points projected. I bet he stops at around 40, but that's all puck luck guessing...like how he had a goal vs Detroit that bounced off him. 50 points is great for a 3rd liner. So is 40, honestly. But 40-50 points and finishing minus 16 to 22 (as long as we are projecting here)? I mean, cmon open your eyes and get rid of the rose shaded glasses. He isn't bad, but he isn't good. Players like Zadina, Puljarvi, even Tippet, all have something to indicate there is a higher ceiling. Mittlestadt just keeps lowering his ceiling.

Sorry pal, your guy is not that good. To put this in perspective for you...Ray Shepard was a 50 goal scorer, and Kris Draper scored a breakaway enough times to top 20 goals once. Draper had uses outside of scoring.. Shep did not. Let's count the rings now, and guess which player is more like Mittelstadt (in principle).


Blah blah blah
Playing at a 50point pace on the 3rd line is VERY GOOD
The end
Idc what u have to say- get over it

PS. It’s Friday night, maybe go have some fun with your life??
14 janv. 2023 à 0 h 36
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Quoting: Buffalove
Blah blah blah
Playing at a 50point pace on the 3rd line is VERY GOOD
The end
Idc what u have to say- get over it

PS. It’s Friday night, maybe go have some fun with your life??


Kids. What is your excuse?' And you just don't get it. Mittelstadt doesn't suck, but your stubbornness makes me want to say he sucks.
14 janv. 2023 à 0 h 45
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Kids. What is your excuse?' And you just don't get it. Mittelstadt doesn't suck, but your stubbornness makes me want to say he sucks.


I have a funeral tomorrow morning- happy hour was fun though

There’s this new thing called a babysitter
Just bc u have kids, doesn’t mean u have to spend your weekend nights arguing about fake hockey trades on the internet
But you go right ahead & champion your “Mittelstadt sucks” campaign…. I still don’t care

Whatever fulfills your life though
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14 janv. 2023 à 0 h 48
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11 is currently the magic number. He had 5 points across his first 5 games. He had two games with 3 points, for 11 points in 7 games. He is -11. He has 11 PP points. That's it for 11... but seriously 24 points in 40 games, but nearly half of those points come from the PP. And he only got 13 points across his other 33 games. For a guy who is playing 3rd line minutes, he needs to contribute more (and more consistently) to cover up the fact that he is not good defensively.

You might think I'm trolling here. I'm not. I've seen him play Detroit , and frankly, he is noticeable in the way that he looks out of place. Kubalik is streaky and not good defensively, but he makes up for it by putting up better numbers (30 points, 13 goals) . Kubalik is only minus 9, but splitting hairs there. Kubalik is streaky like Mittlestadt. Both players are similar in a lot of regards, Kubalik being a bit better. If Buffalo had Kubalik instead of Mittlestadt, and Kubalik was being traded in this proposal, I'd still say the same thing.

We all do it. We all like to overrate our bottom 6 guys. Fact is, Mittlestadt is bottom 6, and it won't matter what team he is on, he will be bottom 6 there too. He is an NHLer, sure. But bottom 6 guys have to figure something out, be good at something (usually defense roles or hardworking, but sometimes PP specialist). Mittlestadt doesn't have any tools to set himself apart from other bottom 6. He's ok, and that is ok, but these types of players carry little value, as they can often be found in free agency for cheap.


He's one of the best PP players in the league. Not sure why you dimish that value. He can play effectively on the PK as well.
He's a 3C with 2nd C potential. His game has definitely been improving. Not sure why one would say it hasn't.

He is an elite play-maker.
He hustles.
Has good speed.
Decent at faceoffs.

Doesn't have any tools? I guess you're not watching. He's one of the best in the league at takeaways. And to top it off, he only costs $2.5mm and is still an RFA after next year. He's 24 years old and still developing. People writing him off are gonna look almost as dumb as people writing off Tage.
14 janv. 2023 à 0 h 52
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He's one of the best PP players in the league. Not sure why you dimish that value. He can play effectively on the PK as well.
He's a 3C with 2nd C potential. His game has definitely been improving. Not sure why one would say it hasn't.

He is an elite play-maker.
He hustles.
Has good speed.
Decent at faceoffs.

Doesn't have any tools? I guess you're not watching. He's one of the best in the league at takeaways. And to top it off, he only costs $2.5mm and is still an RFA after next year. He's 24 years old and still developing. People writing him off are gonna look almost as dumb as people writing off Tage.


And the funniest part to me is some BUF fans are all goo goo ga ga over Kulich because he had a good World Juniors. Guess what? So did Mitts. Maybe let's not rush Kulich along and give him the proper development, something Mitts didn't receive until Granato came along.

Sabres fans are quick to forget that Mitts was going to be our #1C last year until he was injured. Now they want to ship him off for a 3rd round pick, lol.
14 janv. 2023 à 0 h 57
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It's kind of hilarious to give up so much for Konecny. He's a good player for sure.

The funny part, he had 52 points in his 24 age season. Mitts is on pace for 50 in his 24 age season.

Why would BUF give up so much more, just to pay more money for a player that is older and gonna cost more when Mitts could be performing like TK next year?
 
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