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Question about a draft rule

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Équipe: 2022-23 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 17 déc. 2022
Publié: 17 déc. 2022
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  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DET)
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  1. O'Brien, Jay [Liste de réserve]
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If the Flyers do not sign their former 1st rounder Jay O'Brien will they receive a 2nd round pick? Like what happened with Filip Gustavsson and Minnesota last season (check comments if you dont know)
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I'm not 100% but I'm going to say no they won't because he was drafted 4 years ago putting him out side the 2 year window.

The reason compensatory picks are so rare is most teams aren't ready to give up on a 1st round pick after 2 years.
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I'm not 100% but I'm going to say no they won't because he was drafted 4 years ago putting him out side the 2 year window.

The reason compensatory picks are so rare is most teams aren't ready to give up on a 1st round pick after 2 years.


Thanks!
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I'm not 100% but I'm going to say no they won't because he was drafted 4 years ago putting him out side the 2 year window.

The reason compensatory picks are so rare is most teams aren't ready to give up on a 1st round pick after 2 years.


That and players that don't sign are most often college committed, bringing them past the 2 year cutoff. The vast majority of 1st rounders will be signed or in a college program.
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Yes, if Jay O'Brien does not sign, Philadelphia will be receive #51 pick in 2023.
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I'm not 100% but I'm going to say no they won't because he was drafted 4 years ago putting him out side the 2 year window.

The reason compensatory picks are so rare is most teams aren't ready to give up on a 1st round pick after 2 years.


Quoting: ricochetii
That and players that don't sign are most often college committed, bringing them past the 2 year cutoff. The vast majority of 1st rounders will be signed or in a college program.




2 years for junior, 4 years for NCAA (5 years if includes Covid year).

Since 2005...

Most of the former 1st round players who did not sign, and produced compensatory picks for their teams have been NCAA players.
-- AJ Thelen (2007): tricky case because he left Michigan State early
-- Blake Wheeler (2008) :Minnesota
-- David Fischer (2011): Minnesota
-- Patrick White (2012): Minnesota
-- Daultan Leveille (2013): Michigan State
-- Kevin Hayes (2015): Boston College

Only two were non-NCAA players, put on two-year window, didn't sign, and produced compensatory picks
-- Conor Bleackley (2016)
-- Filip Johansson (2022)

In 2023, there could be two candidates
-- #51 pick - PHI (Jay O'Brien)
-- #63 pick - BUF (Ryan Johnson)
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2 years for junior, 4 years for NCAA (5 years if includes Covid year).

Since 2005...

Most of the former 1st round players who did not sign, and produced compensatory picks for their teams have been NCAA players.
-- AJ Thelen (2007): tricky case because he left Michigan State early
-- Blake Wheeler (2008) :Minnesota
-- David Fischer (2011): Minnesota
-- Patrick White (2012): Minnesota
-- Daultan Leveille (2013): Michigan State
-- Kevin Hayes (2015): Boston College

Only two were non-NCAA players, put on two-year window, didn't sign, and produced compensatory picks
-- Conor Bleackley (2016)
-- Filip Johansson (2022)

In 2023, there could be two candidates
-- #51 pick - PHI (Jay O'Brien)
-- #63 pick - BUF (Ryan Johnson)


I didn't know it was different for for college players.
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2 years for junior, 4 years for NCAA (5 years if includes Covid year).

Since 2005...

Most of the former 1st round players who did not sign, and produced compensatory picks for their teams have been NCAA players.
-- AJ Thelen (2007): tricky case because he left Michigan State early
-- Blake Wheeler (2008) :Minnesota
-- David Fischer (2011): Minnesota
-- Patrick White (2012): Minnesota
-- Daultan Leveille (2013): Michigan State
-- Kevin Hayes (2015): Boston College

Only two were non-NCAA players, put on two-year window, didn't sign, and produced compensatory picks
-- Conor Bleackley (2016)
-- Filip Johansson (2022)

In 2023, there could be two candidates
-- #51 pick - PHI (Jay O'Brien)
-- #63 pick - BUF (Ryan Johnson)


I thought it was a ‘24 second because the deadline to sign him isn’t until after the draft.
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