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Habs plan v1

Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 15 déc. 2022
Publié: 15 déc. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Trade Deadline
Transactions
1.
NSH
  1. Drouin, Jonathan (2 750 000 $ retained)
2.
MTL
  1. Boeser, Brock
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
VAN
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni (2 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Monahan, Sean
3.
MTL
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Edmundson, Joel
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
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2182 500 000 $70 397 499 $1 132 500 $5 277 500 $12 102 501 $
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
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842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance507 500 $$508K)
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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15 déc. 2022 à 23 h 7
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That is the only way you can get Boeser if with an incentive. Nobody is trading assets for that AAV for 3 years.

Edmundson will go for at worst a 2nd rounder so I dont think the Habs would do that! And, they will probably retain to get a 1st rnd or better prospect than Bourgault.

Drouin isnt trade possible. Hes going to Europe with Boeser
15 déc. 2022 à 23 h 13
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2nd is going the wrong way in the Canucks trade
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15 déc. 2022 à 23 h 30
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2nd is going the wrong way in the Canucks trade


Actually thats not what's been reported.
Boeser is gonna be traded as a cap dump.
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15 déc. 2022 à 23 h 33
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Actually thats not what's been reported.
Boeser is gonna be traded as a cap dump.


So you get rid of 2 cap dumps for him and still get a second delusional.
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15 déc. 2022 à 23 h 34
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lol what. Canucks add the second round pick despite taking on more cap? Yikes
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15 déc. 2022 à 23 h 35
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Dont speak logic to a Nucks fan

There is no logic here. His value is LOW. It isn’t in the negatives. Why would the Canucks trade Boeser for 2 expensive players who they don’t need, and add a very valuable pick when their prospect pool is empty? Did you even think about that? Disappointing
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15 déc. 2022 à 23 h 43
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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
So you get rid of 2 cap dumps for him and still get a second delusional.


Both are UFAs. Not exactly the definition of cap dumps. Literally everyone agrees Monahan is worth at least a 2nd, most say a 1st.

Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
That's realistic on this market.
Not a snowballs chance in Sunrise Zito makes the above trade


Always remember this quote. After I said early last year Chiarot would be traded for a 2nd rounder lmao at the delusion there. I suppose you were right by being very wrong w/ a 1st plus a 3rd plus a prospect were traded for Chiarot.
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15 déc. 2022 à 23 h 44
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Actually thats not what's been reported.
Boeser is gonna be traded as a cap dump.


Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Dont speak logic to a Nucks fan


His value is lower than it has been in the past, yet he’s still playing at a 60 point pace. Let’s use an examples

Boeser: 22GP 4G 12A 16 PTS Habs fans value: Negative

Anderson: 27 GP 8G 2A 10 PTS Habs fans value: 1st round pick/high end prospect++

Monahan: 25 GP 6G 11A 27 PTS Habs fans value: 1st round pick at 50% retained (a bit different as he’s a pending UFA and a C)

Obviously points aren’t everything, but he’s still producing, and is far better than player than Anderson, and his contract isn’t nearly as bad. If Boeser is negative value to Habs fans, why isn’t Anderson? Oh wait, that’s using logic, which most Habs fans on this site don’t use
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16 déc. 2022 à 0 h 39
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Quoting: Juiceman
There is no logic here. His value is LOW. It isn’t in the negatives. Why would the Canucks trade Boeser for 2 expensive players who they don’t need, and add a very valuable pick when their prospect pool is empty? Did you even think about that? Disappointing


Your version of logic wins lol
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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
So you get rid of 2 cap dumps for him and still get a second delusional.


Dadonov at 2,5m w/1 year left is not a cap dump lol. He has no value. As for Monohan, it has been reported that he's gonna return 2nd + or maybe even 1st +
He is nowhere near a cap dump. It has been reported also, that the Canucks came to the Habs for a Monohan - Boeser swap, and Hughes wanted some more in addition.
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Quoting: Juiceman
lol what. Canucks add the second round pick despite taking on more cap? Yikes


Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Dadonov at 2,5m w/1 year left is not a cap dump lol. He has no value. As for Monohan, it has been reported that he's gonna return 2nd + or maybe even 1st +
He is nowhere near a cap dump. It has been reported also, that the Canucks came to the Habs for a Monohan - Boeser swap, and Hughes wanted some more in addition.


It has also been reported that Vancouver is willing to take on more cap for 1 or 2 years, to be able to have more space in the future.
16 déc. 2022 à 10 h 5
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There is no logic here. His value is LOW. It isn’t in the negatives. Why would the Canucks trade Boeser for 2 expensive players who they don’t need, and add a very valuable pick when their prospect pool is empty? Did you even think about that? Disappointing


Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Dadonov at 2,5m w/1 year left is not a cap dump lol. He has no value. As for Monohan, it has been reported that he's gonna return 2nd + or maybe even 1st +
He is nowhere near a cap dump. It has been reported also, that the Canucks came to the Habs for a Monohan - Boeser swap, and Hughes wanted some more in addition.


Boeser has a large cap for 3 years, he's a 1 dimensional player that no one wants. Monohan on the other hand is there to sign w/Vancouver when Horvat gets traded / leaves. Monohan can put up 50 points gpod vet guy and can do and play everything In all situations. It makes total sense that the Canucks add a sweetener. Maybe not a 2nd...but something else.
16 déc. 2022 à 10 h 10
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Boeser has a large cap for 3 years, he's a 1 dimensional player that no one wants. Monohan on the other hand is there to sign w/Vancouver when Horvat gets traded / leaves. Monohan can put up 50 points gpod vet guy and can do and play everything In all situations. It makes total sense that the Canucks add a sweetener. Maybe not a 2nd...but something else.


Canucks would rather have nothing than two cap dumps. No way in hell are the Canuck’s adding a sweetener to move Boeser if they are taking 10 mil in cap back. 0 logic
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His value is lower than it has been in the past, yet he’s still playing at a 60 point pace. Let’s use an examples

Boeser: 22GP 4G 12A 16 PTS Habs fans value: Negative

Anderson: 27 GP 8G 2A 10 PTS Habs fans value: 1st round pick/high end prospect++

Monahan: 25 GP 6G 11A 27 PTS Habs fans value: 1st round pick at 50% retained (a bit different as he’s a pending UFA and a C)

Obviously points aren’t everything, but he’s still producing, and is far better than player than Anderson, and his contract isn’t nearly as bad. If Boeser is negative value to Habs fans, why isn’t Anderson? Oh wait, that’s using logic, which most Habs fans on this site don’t use


Listen, bud. If Boeser was as valuable as a regular player with 60 points projection. He would've been gone now, right? Or at least been offered the 13th overall pick. + right?.
Nope. His value is LOW. Low for a 60 point guy? Ya, because he doesn't do anything. He gets the lazy points. From work of his teammates. He's terrible defensively too. And far better player than Anderson is really debatable. Anderson is physical, win puck battles, go in front of the net, speed, penalty kill, power play, shoots well. Great power forward. He's worth a lot because not alot of good power forwards now are available.
Also, id like to add that, it seems you agree 1st at least is OK value for Monohan, right?
Well, if we say daddy is with no value . Than you honestly think that Boeser is also worth a 1st, to match mono? Better yet, Boeser is 1st + 2nd, because Habs need to add a2nd, no.
Monohan is worth a 1st. Dadonov = nothing. Boeser = 3rd. 2nd = 2nd.
It's total fair value imo.
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Canucks would rather have nothing than two cap dumps. No way in hell are the Canuck’s adding a sweetener to move Boeser if they are taking 10 mil in cap back. 0 logic


For 1 year.
When next year they will gain around 2m in the deal, + better player with Monohan > Boeser.
16 déc. 2022 à 10 h 36
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-Drouin has been awful. No contender is going to devote $2.75M of their cap space to a guy they can't count on come playoff time, much less giving up anything of value in return. There are much, much better targets out there than Drouin.

-Bad deal for both sides. Vancouver will do better letting Boeser play out the year and then shopping him in the offseason when more teams will be able to bring on 2x$6.65M - trading him mid-season with that cap hit means you're basically only dealing with the lottery teams that have enough space to add him. And Monahan, if he's healthy, is one of Montreal's better trade chips at the deadline - I think they're dampening his value by packaging him with a useless contract in Dadonov, and I don't know if a young team like Montreal necessarily benefits from getting a 26 year old (at the deadline) winger with only 2 years left before he can walk. Just seems like weird value for both sides - like, I see the logic in Vancouver getting the cap to disappear after this season if they want to keep Horvat, but apparently they don't? I dunno.

-Don't think that Montreal needs to send back a pick here. If Edmonton likes Edmundson (it needs to happen because of the name, honestly), this gets him. Bourgault might be a bit of an overpay, but most of their top 6 is locked in for the next 3 years (at least) so how many opportunities will he really get? I think it's a big swing to take but it is a move that can hopefully stabilize that defense. Even if it's not Edmundson, I think the Oilers should be thinking about moving a guy like Bourgault or Holloway (whoever they like less) for LD help this year - they need all the help they can get there.
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16 déc. 2022 à 10 h 44
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
For 1 year.
When next year they will gain around 2m in the deal, + better player with Monohan > Boeser.


Canucks can just sign Monahan in the offseason. Why would the Canucks give up valuable assets for him? We already have no prospects. We aren’t giving up picks for UFAs
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16 déc. 2022 à 12 h 50
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Your version of logic wins lol


Glad to see Canucks fans take the wins where they can because they are NOT winning a Boeser trade when Bjorsktrand had better stats in the offseason and makes 1.25M less AAV got traded for nada. Everyone agrees on the pundits that Boeser is a cap dump but hey it's nice to believe in fairy tales
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Listen, bud. If Boeser was as valuable as a regular player with 60 points projection. He would've been gone now, right? Or at least been offered the 13th overall pick. + right?.
Nope. His value is LOW. Low for a 60 point guy? Ya, because he doesn't do anything. He gets the lazy points. From work of his teammates. He's terrible defensively too. And far better player than Anderson is really debatable. Anderson is physical, win puck battles, go in front of the net, speed, penalty kill, power play, shoots well. Great power forward. He's worth a lot because not alot of good power forwards now are available.
Also, id like to add that, it seems you agree 1st at least is OK value for Monohan, right?
Well, if we say daddy is with no value . Than you honestly think that Boeser is also worth a 1st, to match mono? Better yet, Boeser is 1st + 2nd, because Habs need to add a2nd, no.
Monohan is worth a 1st. Dadonov = nothing. Boeser = 3rd. 2nd = 2nd.
It's total fair value imo.


Still dont want Boeser without another winger with term going out. Bjorkstrand hasnt exactly worked out in Seattle. Boeser is an enigma at the best times. Flying across the country to play in the biggest pressure cooker in hockey. NO!
He will be buy out talk by the end of the year. Canucks fans don know how to sell their players. They talk about Boeser play in the bubble like it means something today. That isnt how hype works, Chiarot was having the season of his life last year and made his price soar. Thatis called selling high. When you sell low you dont get a players potential as leverage!
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