The 7th OV is like two late 1st in value or something (might have been the 7th OV+ 39th OV was similar to two late 1sts+late 2nd). Worth noting that it was also said that if they trade Meier to a team as a rental, they might get more than if they trade him to a team that is expecting to retain him.

I would say that for this draft. This draft a late 1st (let’s say 25 OVR) is gonna be worth closer to a pick in the late teens in a normal draft because of how deep this draft is

Yeah, but what if a team at the draft was willing to offer the 7th OV pick for example for Meier straight (less than what DeBrincat got). It's going to beat that offer.

The ask for Meier is a 1st and a blue-chip prospect if I'm not mistaken. So, for Toronto the ask would have to be Knies+the 2023 1st, maybe they will allow it to be a 2024 1st idk. Best case scenario, it's going to be Robertson+2023 1st.

Well that would beat the offer but we don’t need to worry about that happening because no team that is projecting to have a top 10 pick is going to trade it.
The way I see it,
Gap between 7th last year and a late first this year is about another late first this year
Early 2nd last draft < Hirvonen (mid 2nd from a couple drafts ago) + Kerfoot
Early 3rd this year > 3rd that Chicago got
Abbruzzese adds a bit of value
So it’s a fairly solid asset behind in value compared to Debrincat trade but it’s not super far behind, and depending on how big the gap in the returns is expected to be between Debrincat and Meier, this might get it done

Missing that late 1st is a huge drop in value, they would basically only have 1 shot of getting a player similar to Meier. He's a 26 yo PPG established player, so SJ should at least get two chances at getting a player of similar skill. With the draft being deep, they should have at least 1, other than that they got nothing else in there.

Kerfoot won't hold any value in the trade for SJ since he has no term.

A late 1st in a better draft still pales in comparison to 7th OA. For the sake of argument lets say the standings dont change and Toronto finishes 2nd in the division but 1st amoung non division winners, then in the playoffs they are knocked out before the conference finals at some point. They would be picking at latest 28th and at earliest 24th. 2015 and 2016 were the last years we had comparable to this draft year. Players drafted between 24-28 in those years were Konecny, Roslovic, Juulsen, J. Larson, and Beauvillier for 2015, and M. Jones, Tuftle, Thompson, B. Howden, and L. Johansen for 2016. By comparison a recent draft that was viewed as relatively weak was 2018 where Quinn Hughes was selected 7th OA.

While Tage and Konecney are starting to make names for themselves they are still quite a bit behind Hughes in raw skill. Even then that late 1st would have to be that late home run instead of any of the other mediocre players to misses named above.

I mean a 2023 1st and 2024 1st could work instead. Maybe something like:
23 1st
24 1st
Abbruzzese
Kerfoot
For
Meier
2023 Sharks 3rd rounder
Gives them more of a top quality piece back

Maybe that could work but I imagine it would get beat. I doubt Dubas would be willing to do that unless he feels like there's a way to resign Meier even if it's just for a year.

I would think though that they just sign Meier if they don't get their ask.

Sharks don't even consider for a second. A bucket of crap for a legit star power forward.

You saw tonight why Robertson has no value. tossed like a rag doll by an average sized player

I feel if SJS does it they are gonna want Toronto's 2023 and 2024 1st and Niemela + Voit with Kerfoot or Engvall going the other way to make the salary work

Would I do it maybe as he is an RFA but having 5 forwards making a 50+ mill total is tricky

Would rather go get a slightly lesser wing but with more grit and bite to his name (i.e. Konecney)