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Timo Year 1

Créé par: Rotheisler
Équipe: 2022-23 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 19 nov. 2022
Publié: 19 nov. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Part 1. A little aggressive, and criticize away because I would definitely have a few things to say about this if it wasn't mine. haha
Transactions
1.
SJS
  1. Dubé, Dillon
  2. Pelletier, Jakob
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
2.
CGY
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir (3 750 000 $ retained)
STL
  1. Mangiapane, Andrew
  2. Rooney, Kevin
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
2024
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
2025
Logo de FLA
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $66 375 833 $0 $200 000 $16 124 167 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 900 000 $5 900 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
0 $0 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
762 500 $762 500 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Flames de Calgary
863 333 $863 333 $
AG, C
RFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
800 000 $800 000 $ (Bonis de performance200 000 $$200K)
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
750 000 $750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
912 500 $912 500 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Flames de Calgary
750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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19 nov. 2022 à 15 h 35
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oooh hmmm
19 nov. 2022 à 16 h 6
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I think the value is fair. Despite the absurdly high ask of most sharks fans, i think as a neutral fan and comparing comparable players moved recently this is what Meier should get in a trade.

This is reasonable for what Meier brings. Of course there is quite a bit of risk resigning him though. I would say refrain from the STL trade.
19 nov. 2022 à 17 h 11
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That's a whole lot of nothing for Tarasanko. Mangiapane's best season was last year and he's likely to not put up similar numbers.
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19 nov. 2022 à 19 h 39
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That's a whole lot of nothing for Tarasanko. Mangiapane's best season was last year and he's likely to not put up similar numbers.


Regret for the Mangiapane contract so try to dump it
19 nov. 2022 à 21 h 39
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Selling low on Mangiapane is just dumb
19 nov. 2022 à 21 h 42
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That's a whole lot of nothing for Tarasanko. Mangiapane's best season was last year and he's likely to not put up similar numbers.


You've never watched him play I guess. Guys shooting nearly 10% below his career average right now and suddenly his contract is bad?
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19 nov. 2022 à 21 h 43
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Gotta give to get Ledge and moving Mang’s Cap Hit would help us re-sign Tarasenko or another 0.80-1.00PPG+ Player

Too early to consider moving him!? How long do we wait for him to turn it around!? Mang is getting Paid Top-6 money but isn’t Producing Top-6 results
20 nov. 2022 à 18 h 45
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You've never watched him play I guess. Guys shooting nearly 10% below his career average right now and suddenly his contract is bad?


Guys best year was last year and looks like an outlier. You want someone on a bloated contract close to 6 mill that's about to kick in a M-NTC who puts up 30 points as the main piece for Tarasanko. Expect to hear crickets when you phone the offer over to DA
20 nov. 2022 à 19 h 30
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Guys best year was last year and looks like an outlier. You want someone on a bloated contract close to 6 mill that's about to kick in a M-NTC who puts up 30 points as the main piece for Tarasanko. Expect to hear crickets when you phone the offer over to DA


Guess we shouldn't offer Huberdeau either since that will get the same response. Bloated contract, best years are behind him, probably only puts up 30 points right?

Or maybe you should ask yourself why the goal scorer who's scored on around 16-20% of their shots over the previous 3 seasons is only shooting at 9% so far after these 17 games.
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20 nov. 2022 à 20 h 31
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Guess we shouldn't offer Huberdeau either since that will get the same response. Bloated contract, best years are behind him, probably only puts up 30 points right?

Or maybe you should ask yourself why the goal scorer who's scored on around 16-20% of their shots over the previous 3 seasons is only shooting at 9% so far after these 17 games.


The guy would have more goals if he had more goals? He'd have more points if he'd have more points? Do you understand your argument? He'd score more if he shot more? The point is he doesn't score more because he doesn't shoot. And somehow that percentage is suppose to magically hold up when it scales? He's a 26 year old 6th round draft pick, with a 5.8 cap hit who is on pace to once again put up 30 points. We aren't trading Tarasanko for a guy who will "potential" shoot. And Mag's best years aren't behind him, hes never produced at a level to be a cornerstone piece for someone like Tarasanko.
20 nov. 2022 à 20 h 35
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The guy would have more goals if he had more goals? He'd have more points if he'd have more points? Do you understand your argument? He'd score more if he shot more? The point is he doesn't score more because he doesn't shoot. And somehow that percentage is suppose to magically hold up when it scales? He's a 26 year old 6th round draft pick, with a 5.8 cap hit who is on pace to once again put up 30 points. We aren't trading Tarasanko for a guy who will "potential" shoot. And Mag's best years aren't behind him, hes never produced at a level to be a cornerstone piece for someone like Tarasanko.


Huh? Do you not know what shooting percentage is?
20 nov. 2022 à 20 h 45
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Huh? Do you not know what shooting percentage is?


Do you know what a Tarasanko is?
20 nov. 2022 à 20 h 52
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Do you know what a Tarasanko is?


I do but that has nothing to do with anything I said here
20 nov. 2022 à 21 h 8
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I do but that has nothing to do with anything I said here

Isn’t this site so much fun lol
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22 nov. 2022 à 0 h 49
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hahah all great points, and honestly all are potentially right. Mangiapane could be an outlier year last year, but he has enough attributes without scoring that show that there is a chance that gis could be just as much an outlier year as he has progressed every year. Again, I am not saying is IS or ISN'T, I'm saying because there is a debate, it obviously can possibly be either way, which you can't argue. That being said, Tarasenko is a rental, so Mangiapane is more than fair for him. If Mangiapane was a sure thing, you obviously wouldn't get him on a 3 year contract for a UFA. hence the trade being relatively fair, whether it is liked or not. But from a bias flames fan, even though I did this, I wouldn't trade that I don't think for Tarasenko, so moot point.
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