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Flames get the top 6 Sutter player they are looking forLeafs get defensivedepth

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Équipe: 2022-23 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 4 oct. 2022
Publié: 4 oct. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
Transactions
CGY
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Leafs retain 50% which is only $350k because kerfoot only has 700k left on his contact and yes ik kerfoot has a M-NTC
TOR
  1. Zadorov, Nikita
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
Leafs would have to find another team to retain salary
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $70 425 000 $0 $200 000 $12 075 000 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 900 000 $5 900 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 2
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762 500 $762 500 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
800 000 $800 000 $ (Bonis de performance200 000 $$200K)
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 550 000 $1 550 000 $
DG
RFA - 1

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4 oct. 2022 à 14 h 15
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Actually Kerfoot has M NTC, but Calgary certainly looks attractive to be on a trade list. Really though, it doesn't help the Leafs cap much as Leafs still would taking 2.5m Kylington and sending away 3.5m
4 oct. 2022 à 14 h 21
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The Flames give up Kylington, a 2nd, 5th and two 7th?

The Flames don’t touch this one.

Kylington > Kerfoot.
4 oct. 2022 à 14 h 26
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The Flames give up Kylington, a 2nd, 5th and two 7th?

The Flames don’t touch this one.

Kylington > Kerfoot.


I wouldn't go that far.

Kylington has had one season, where he looked very good. Kerfoot has an actual sample size where the Flames know exactly what they are getting. Kylington could be a one year wonder. Don't think he is, but, he could be.

However, given the Leafs cap situation, Kylington is an overpay based on contract control and that one season. The draft pucks made me laugh.

Point is, Leafs are looking to get some value in a Kerfoot deal, not hit a home run (although I wouldn't complain!).
4 oct. 2022 à 14 h 29
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kerfoot is only owed 700k salary, 50% would be 1.75M on paper but only 300k, so that would be an huge overpay, and kylington seems ok but i think the leafs would target Top 4 RHD, also doubt we go for an offensive dmen
4 oct. 2022 à 14 h 29
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Kerfoot is a fine middle 6 piece but all the numbers that Sutter emphasizes in terms of possession Kerfoot is coming of his worst season as a pro. Toronto has minimal leverage in a deal and no one is giving up good NHL pieces for him.
4 oct. 2022 à 15 h 1
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Quoting: jake4leafs
kerfoot is only owed 700k salary, 50% would be 1.75M on paper but only 300k, so that would be an huge overpay, and kylington seems ok but i think the leafs would target Top 4 RHD, also doubt we go for an offensive dmen


Oh ok I thought it was 1.75 mil, i dragged the wrong person in to the trade, I will change it
4 oct. 2022 à 15 h 2
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The Flames give up Kylington, a 2nd, 5th and two 7th?

The Flames don’t touch this one.

Kylington > Kerfoot.


Calm down Kylington is not that good
4 oct. 2022 à 15 h 3
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Kerfoot is a fine middle 6 piece but all the numbers that Sutter emphasizes in terms of possession Kerfoot is coming of his worst season as a pro. Toronto has minimal leverage in a deal and no one is giving up good NHL pieces for him.


hmmm it was actually his best year if anything
4 oct. 2022 à 15 h 4
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hmmm it was actually his best year if anything


I agree
4 oct. 2022 à 15 h 5
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Quoting: yycofred
Kerfoot is a fine middle 6 piece but all the numbers that Sutter emphasizes in terms of possession Kerfoot is coming of his worst season as a pro. Toronto has minimal leverage in a deal and no one is giving up good NHL pieces for him.


Lots of contending teams would give up a decent amount for a player like kerfoot
4 oct. 2022 à 15 h 6
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I agree


stats agree too, more ice time, more hits, more pts, more takeaways, 51 pts with no powerplay time
4 oct. 2022 à 15 h 6
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Lots of contending teams would give up a decent amount for a player like kerfoot


i honestly think his value is a second round from a contending team, but i guess we"ll soon find out since hes the main guy to get moved for cap
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4 oct. 2022 à 15 h 9
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hmmm it was actually his best year if anything


The comment says in terms of possession.. in the regard it was his career low year. He's gotten consistently worse in his extended metrics year over year. Sutter can be old school but he's always preached how important possession numbers are to him.
4 oct. 2022 à 15 h 10
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The comment says in terms of possession.. in the regard it was his career low year. He's gotten consistently worse in his extended metrics year over year. Sutter can be old school but he's always preached how important possession numbers are to him.


ur possesion numbers will be worse if ur playing against top 6 opponents everynight, which he did
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4 oct. 2022 à 15 h 13
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ur possesion numbers will be worse if ur playing against top 6 opponents everynight, which he did


That's why there are relative numbers that isolate the player, Tavares and Nylander had bumps in their standard numbers while a slight hit to the relative, Kerfoot nosedived again like he has every season since he's been in the league, this isn't a one season anomaly.
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That's why there are relative numbers that isolate the player, Tavares and Nylander had bumps in their standard numbers while a slight hit to the relative, Kerfoot nosedived again like he has every season since he's been in the league, this isn't a one season anomaly.


so that 1 stat matters more than all the other combined?
4 oct. 2022 à 15 h 15
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so that 1 stat matters more than all the other combined?


My comment specifically mentioned that.. it will be okay, he's a good middle six player that is a bit of a passenger in some regards, just happens to be the parts of the game that are important to another teams system. Could the same not be said about his 51 points? Of course it was up this season, he played with Tavares and Nylander.
4 oct. 2022 à 15 h 21
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Quoting: yycofred
The comment says in terms of possession.. in the regard it was his career low year. He's gotten consistently worse in his extended metrics year over year. Sutter can be old school but he's always preached how important possession numbers are to him.

Those stats aren't everything tho, kerfoot is a player you can play anywhere,play defensively,and physical
4 oct. 2022 à 15 h 22
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Those stats aren't everything tho, kerfoot is a player you can play anywhere,play defensively,and physical


Which Sutter likes in his players more than anything I
4 oct. 2022 à 15 h 23
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I changed the trade
4 oct. 2022 à 15 h 24
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Those stats aren't everything tho, kerfoot is a player you can play anywhere,play defensively,and physical


Agreed, 100%, they're not everything but when you look at the trends in some of those numbers it's not necessarily what a team would spend good assets on to acquire. He's a good middle 6 winger no one is doubting that. His value is at his highest it will ever be right now and I don't think a lot of teams will want to buy on the sell high candidate. As I mentioned to the other guy you could argue his points popped off cause of his line mates, just as his possession has declined because of his matchups./
4 oct. 2022 à 15 h 30
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Agreed, 100%, they're not everything but when you look at the trends in some of those numbers it's not necessarily what a team would spend good assets on to acquire. He's a good middle 6 winger no one is doubting that. His value is at his highest it will ever be right now and I don't think a lot of teams will want to buy on the sell high candidate. As I mentioned to the other guy you could argue his points popped off cause of his line mates, just as his possession has declined because of his matchups./


its the opposite, his value is probably at his lowest since most teams are cap stranded af and he has a no trade clause, that being said the leafs dont seem to be in a rush to trade him. hes a player keefe and dubas clearly like and count on
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Quoting: yycofred
Agreed, 100%, they're not everything but when you look at the trends in some of those numbers it's not necessarily what a team would spend good assets on to acquire. He's a good middle 6 winger no one is doubting that. His value is at his highest it will ever be right now and I don't think a lot of teams will want to buy on the sell high candidate. As I mentioned to the other guy you could argue his points popped off cause of his line mates, just as his possession has declined because of his matchups./


His points probably wouldn't be as high playing with Kadri and Toffoli but how many would he get with those 2, I know Sutter is putting Toffoli on line 1 but he hasn't be meshing well with Lindholm so I think mangiapine will be first line
4 oct. 2022 à 15 h 31
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its the opposite, his value is probably at his lowest since most teams are cap stranded af and he has a no trade clause, that being said the leafs dont seem to be in a rush to trade him. hes a player keefe and dubas clearly like and count on


I hope they resign him but I doubt it happens
4 oct. 2022 à 15 h 33
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I hope they resign him but I doubt it happens


cant fit him sadly, with knies ELC he easily get replaced ice time wise, jarnkrok will handle the defensive duties he had, also the next $$$ we get is all for bunting
 
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