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Not a complete deal Talk to me about the framework

Créé par: mokumboi
Date de création initiale: 5 sept. 2022
Publié: 5 sept. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Blues de St-Louis
Explications
I'm trying to see what everyone thinks about whether this is a feasible framework for a 3-way trade with NJ (who get Tarasenko and give Severson to VAN). And if it is, what finishing touches are needed? Who should add what to whom, and so forth?

Why? Coz suddenly I've been thinking Garland is the perfect guy to give ROR to C now that his best bud Frenchy is gone.

Any other questions, please direct them to our head of PR Maureen.
Transactions
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STL
  1. Woo, Jett
  2. Garland, Conor
VAN
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir
Détails additionnels:
Vova actually goes to NJ, who send Severson to VAN.
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2482 500 000 $80 580 833 $1 100 000 $165 000 $1 919 167 $
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Garland, Conor
4 950 000 $
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O'Reilly, Ryan
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C
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Kyrou, Jordan
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AD
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Barbashev, Ivan
2 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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Thomas, Robert
2 800 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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Buchnevich, Pavel
5 800 000 $
AG, AD
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UFA - 3
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Saad, Brandon
4 500 000 $
AG, AD
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Schenn, Brayden
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C, AG
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Neighbours, Jake
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AG
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Walker, Nathan
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AG
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Acciari, Noel
1 250 000 $
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Toropchenko, Alexey
750 000 $
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Leddy, Nick
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Parayko, Colton
6 500 000 $
DD
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UFA - 8
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Binnington, Jordan
6 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 5
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Krug, Torey
6 500 000 $
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Faulk, Justin
6 500 000 $
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Hofer, Joel
795 000 $
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Perunovich, Scott
750 000 $
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Bortuzzo, Robert
950 000 $
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UFA - 2
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Leivo, Josh
750 000 $
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Scandella, Marco
3 275 000 $
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Mikkola, Niko
1 900 000 $
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Brown, Logan
750 000 $
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Greiss, Thomas
1 250 000 $ (125 000 $)
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UFA - 1

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5 sept. à 23 h 13
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Do you think Tarasenko will be moved before the season?
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From Vancouvers perspective, we would want to know what it would take to extend Severson and probably wouldn't add Woo. Garland for Severson seems pretty fair if we can extend him.
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From Vancouvers perspective, we would want to know what it would take to extend Severson and probably wouldn't add Woo. Garland for Severson seems pretty fair if we can extend him.


Presume Severson comes with a tidy extension. And I'm sure the Blues would be willing to throw VAN a mid prospect back for Woo, whom they clearly don't like for some reason.
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Do you think Tarasenko will be moved before the season?


No, but perhaps early-ish. One reason I have Hofer up, it's not necessarily meant for now.
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5 sept. à 23 h 52
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No, but perhaps early-ish. One reason I have Hofer up, it's not necessarily meant for now.


I think the priority for an early season or late off-season trade is to free up room for Perunovich to hop into the lineup. No reason in keeping Scandella and Mikkola in the press box when Rosen and Kessel can come up when anyone gets hurt.
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I think the priority for an early season or late off-season trade is to free up room for Perunovich to hop into the lineup. No reason in keeping Scandella and Mikkola in the press box when Rosen and Kessel can come up when anyone gets hurt.


Injuries happen. I think Army got spooked by having a D injury/illness crisis three straight playoffs. I kinda don't blame him. But yeah, one of those guys can probably go, which one might depend on if Mikko is ready to be consistent. Or on what we could get for him.
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Do people actually take the time to look at other teams cap space? Vancouver is already about $2,751,000 over the cap. Taking on Garland for Tarasenko isn't going to cut it.
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Do people actually take the time to look at other teams cap space? Vancouver is already about $2,751,000 over the cap. Taking on Garland for Tarasenko isn't going to cut it.


Dude, Tarasenko goes to NJ.
6 sept. à 1 h 19
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Severson is an option, but is he really what Vancouver needs? I would wait until TDL to see the Canucks in action and look at Severson's analytics
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Also, I read this article from 2020 about Severson. https://devilsarmynetwork.com/articles/damon-severson-elite/
Does this article's description of Severson still hold
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Severson is an option, but is he really what Vancouver needs? I would wait until TDL to see the Canucks in action and look at Severson's analytics


I've seen loads of Canucks AGMs trying to get Severson.
6 sept. à 3 h 42
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I've seen loads of Canucks AGMs trying to get Severson.


Do you think Severson is good for Canucks
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Do you think Severson is good for Canucks


If they want to win, he is. They need an RD upgrade in the ranks.
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Thanks so much. You are definitely right. I would be okay with the 3 way trade. I am not too high on Jett Woo but would prefer to ship Viktor Persson instead of Woo.
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I like this (obviously VT my fav player so id hurt) but Woo might get stuck here like he does in VAN

Does Van go for it Maybe but i think they would then they wont have to trade Pearson
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I like this (obviously VT my fav player so id hurt) but Woo might get stuck here like he does in VAN

Does Van go for it Maybe but i think they would then they wont have to trade Pearson


Woo can be groomed to take Bortz's spot in 24-25.
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Woo doesn't interest me at all, I think the Blues have equal defensive prospects to him and I don't see him actually making the NHL regularly. Garland is intriguing, however with the JT Miller deal I think the Cancucks are wanting to make a run at the playoffs and losing Garland hurts them
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Woo doesn't interest me at all, I think the Blues have equal defensive prospects to him and I don't see him actually making the NHL regularly. Garland is intriguing, however with the JT Miller deal I think the Cancucks are wanting to make a run at the playoffs and losing Garland hurts them


1- We don't have an RD prospect of Woo's playing style (or an LD, for that matter). Unlike Vancounver apparently, I think the kid has the game to step in for Bortz after 23/24.

2- Yes, but Severson would help them. Gotta give to get.
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1- We don't have an RD prospect of Woo's playing style (or an LD, for that matter). Unlike Vancounver apparently, I think the kid has the game to step in for Bortz after 23/24.

2- Yes, but Severson would help them. Gotta give to get.


Parayko and Faulk are both locked up long term, Kessel is better than Woo. Woo will not be a NHLer, not saying Kessel will, however he has a better shot than Woo
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Parayko and Faulk are both locked up long term, Kessel is better than Woo. Woo will not be a NHLer, not saying Kessel will, however he has a better shot than Woo


Setting aside that I don't agree on Kessel being a better prospect than Woo, they are very different types of D-men. And I said he'd be there to groom for Bortuzzo's place. Faulk and Parayko are irrelevant.
 
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