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Knight to MTL Chychrun to FLO

Créé par: LIRIK
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 3 sept. 2022
Publié: 4 sept. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Knight and a 2nd to Montreal
Chychrun and Allen to Florida
Three first round picks and Hornqvist to Arizona

I think MTL is one of the few teams who have what Arizona wants for Chychrun. They need a good young goalie to grow with their young core. MTL trading their 2024 1st is risky, but Habs will probably be better by then and that pick will be out of the top 10.

Florida need to add a good top pair D to replace Weegar. They need to win now, and Chychrun helps them more than Knight does. They get Allen 50% retained for a 2nd. Could also be Montembault without retension for free.

Arizona get what they want for Chychrun. They don't want top prospects or NHL players, they want picks. Three 1st, including a 2023 unprotected 1st and a possible top 15 in 2024 should be enough to get Chychrun.

I think every team gets what they want.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
22 100 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Hörnqvist, Patric
  2. Knight, Spencer
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
FLA
2.
MTL
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
ARI
  1. Hörnqvist, Patric
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
3.
MTL
FLA
  1. Allen, Jake (1 437 500 $ retained)
  2. Chychrun, Jakob
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $73 752 499 $1 132 500 $3 840 000 $8 747 501 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Caufield, Cole
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Suzuki, Nick
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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Dach, Kirby
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 4
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Drouin, Jonathan
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Monahan, Sean
6 375 000 $6 375 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Anderson, Josh
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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Dadonov, Evgeni
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Dvorak, Christian
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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Gallagher, Brendan
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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Evans, Jake
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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Pitlick, Rem
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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Armia, Joel
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Matheson, Michael
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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Savard, David
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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Exempté du ballottageKnight, Spencer
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
G
RFA - 1
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Edmundson, Joel
875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Barron, Justin
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DD
RFA - 2
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Montembeault, Samuel
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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Exempté du ballottageGuhle, Kaiden
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 3
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Wideman, Chris
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Byron, Paul
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Price, Carey
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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Hoffman, Mike
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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Harris, Jordan
842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance507 500 $$508K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1

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4 sept. 2022 à 0 h 17
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this is actually one of the rare Montreal moves where i feel Montreal is the team with the worst return.
your being fair and it makes sense but that’s an awful lot for a young goaltender… but that’s about what he would cost.
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Had to check to make sure you were a Habs fan. Habs get pillaged in this trade. Florida immediately accepts this, no take backs.
4 sept. 2022 à 0 h 20
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
this is actually one of the rare Montreal moves where i feel Montreal is the team with the worst return.
your being fair and it makes sense but that’s an awful lot for a young goaltender… but that’s about what he would cost.


Lol... no. 4 1st round picks and Jake Allen for knight and a 2nd. That is robbery.

Edit: just noticed hornqvist goes to Arizona.
4 sept. 2022 à 0 h 20
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Arizona passes.
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Arizona passes.


now that is flat out stupid
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That's a loooot to give up for a young goalie
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4 sept. 2022 à 0 h 32
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Hornqvist and 3 1st round picks doesn't get Jakob Chychrun, Not even close.

And fat chance of Florida moving Knight. After 2 more season they'd just buyout Bobrovsky before moving Spencer Knight.
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You're gonna have to do a Florida ACGM to show us all how this works, because right now, Florida is over the cap by $3.375 million and
Chychrun = $4,600,000
Allen = $1,437,500
Total = + $6,037,500
Hornqvist = $5,300,000
Knight = $925,000
Total = -$6,225,000
4 sept. 2022 à 0 h 36
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Florida would likely have to send another small piece to Montreal to make this happen
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4 sept. 2022 à 0 h 42
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
this is actually one of the rare Montreal moves where i feel Montreal is the team with the worst return.
your being fair and it makes sense but that’s an awful lot for a young goaltender… but that’s about what he would cost.


Quoting: GenXHockey
Had to check to make sure you were a Habs fan. Habs get pillaged in this trade. Florida immediately accepts this, no take backs.


Did he change it cause ain’t no way FLA takes this lol
4 sept. 2022 à 0 h 57
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Did he change it cause ain’t no way FLA takes this lol


Dump hornqvist and acquire chychrun and Allen for knight and a 2nd. The 2nd doesn't even cover hornqvist Allen and chychrun for knight... who they can't even afford next season. Yeah panthers take this easily.
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4 sept. 2022 à 1 h 0
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Dump hornqvist and acquire chychrun and Allen for knight and a 2nd. The 2nd doesn't even cover hornqvist Allen and chychrun for knight... who they can't even afford next season. Yeah panthers take this easily.


I assume they buyout Bob before they trade knoght
4 sept. 2022 à 1 h 5
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
now that is flat out stupid


What are you on about? It's not what they've asked for. It's a late 23 1st, then maybe a good one in 24 and then another probably late one three whole years from now. Plus where is taking Hornqvist being paid for? Arizona isn't accepting that. Obviously.
4 sept. 2022 à 1 h 16
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I assume they buyout Bob before they trade knoght


I think you assumed bob's buyout is better than what it actually is. They only save 3.3m over the 3 years and then have 3 years of 1.7m dead cap.

Or they can keep Bob till he's tradeaboe and fix their actual issue... defence. This team is screwed in a few years. They've already pushed in all of their chips.
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4 sept. 2022 à 1 h 19
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What are you on about? It's not what they've asked for. It's a late 23 1st, then maybe a good one in 24 and then another probably late one three whole years from now. Plus where is taking Hornqvist being paid for? Arizona isn't accepting that. Obviously.


3 1st is more than i’ve seen for a LD in a LONG time…
and Hornqvist gets Arizona back above the cap floor.
the rumor was 2 1st and a prospect for Chychrun. 3 firsts seems beyond fair. he isn’t Makar after all.
4 sept. 2022 à 1 h 27
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
You're gonna have to do a Florida ACGM to show us all how this works, because right now, Florida is over the cap by $3.375 million and
Chychrun = $4,600,000
Allen = $1,437,500
Total = + $6,037,500
Hornqvist = $5,300,000
Knight = $925,000
Total = -$6,225,000


They are nearly 200k closer... lol.
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4 sept. 2022 à 1 h 33
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
You're gonna have to do a Florida ACGM to show us all how this works, because right now, Florida is over the cap by $3.375 million and
Chychrun = $4,600,000
Allen = $1,437,500
Total = + $6,037,500
Hornqvist = $5,300,000
Knight = $925,000
Total = -$6,225,000


Duclair 3M is going on LTIR for the whole season.
4 sept. 2022 à 1 h 35
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Quoting: GenXHockey
Had to check to make sure you were a Habs fan. Habs get pillaged in this trade. Florida immediately accepts this, no take backs.


Florida would only trade Knight if they can get a Chychrun type of D.
4 sept. 2022 à 1 h 38
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Florida would only trade Knight if they can get a Chychrun type of D.


Which makes me think that Montreal shouldn't be in the market for knight. Buying an overpriced Dman for an even more overpriced goalie doesn't seem very economic.
4 sept. 2022 à 1 h 44
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Which makes me think that Montreal shouldn't be in the market for knight. Buying an overpriced Dman for an even more overpriced goalie doesn't seem very economic.


I think Knight would be a key piece for MTL rebuild.
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You're gonna have to do a Florida ACGM to show us all how this works, because right now, Florida is over the cap by $3.375 million and
Chychrun = $4,600,000
Allen = $1,437,500
Total = + $6,037,500
Hornqvist = $5,300,000
Knight = $925,000
Total = -$6,225,000


https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3624388
4 sept. 2022 à 1 h 50
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What are you on about? It's not what they've asked for. It's a late 23 1st, then maybe a good one in 24 and then another probably late one three whole years from now. Plus where is taking Hornqvist being paid for? Arizona isn't accepting that. Obviously.


2023 1st is unprotected, 2024 1st could be really high, and the 2025 Calgary 1st can be switch for their 2024 1st if it's outside of top 20.

Arizona knows they're gonna have to eat cap back if they trade Chychrun to any contender. It comes with the price.
4 sept. 2022 à 1 h 54
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2023 1st is unprotected, 2024 1st could be really high, and the 2025 Calgary 1st can be switch for their 2024 1st if it's outside of top 20.

Arizona knows they're gonna have to eat cap back if they trade Chychrun to any contender. It comes with the price.


Heh. Florida's 1sr being unprotected ain't saying much. And you don't just get to send a cap dump for free, dude. Not sure how you got that idea.
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3 1st is more than i’ve seen for a LD in a LONG time…
and Hornqvist gets Arizona back above the cap floor.
the rumor was 2 1st and a prospect for Chychrun. 3 firsts seems beyond fair. he isn’t Makar after all.


If it was three 23 1sts, perhaps. And that's not the ask anyway. It's supposedly a good young player, an A prospect and a 1st.
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