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Créé par: raph222b
Équipe: 2024-25 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 29 août 2022
Publié: 29 août 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3950 000 $
2950 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
87 200 000 $
84 200 000 $
22 200 000 $
21 800 000 $
55 800 000 $
21 800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
47 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Dvorsky, Dalibor
87 500 000 $
Transactions
MTL
  1. Hronek, Filip [Droits de RFA]
DET
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
Dvorak is kept at MTL until last year of contract. (He is around a 50 pt C)
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $79 564 999 $1 022 500 $3 977 500 $2 935 001 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 6
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7 200 000 $7 200 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 7
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950 000 $950 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Dvorsky, Dalibor
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
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4 200 000 $4 200 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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828 333 $828 333 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
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835 000 $835 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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897 500 $897 500 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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918 333 $918 333 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
DD
RFA
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
G
UFA - 8
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
DD
RFA
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
RFA - 1
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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29 août 2022 à 10 h 54
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youre supposed to keep dvorak so he can play with dvorsky
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29 août 2022 à 10 h 58
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youre supposed to keep dvorak so he can play with dvorsky


Many commentator will quit their jobs.
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29 août 2022 à 11 h 4
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Why would Detroit trade their 2nd best for a top six player who they don’t need.
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29 août 2022 à 11 h 16
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With Larkin, Copp, and Suter as our top three centres and with Kasper and Niederbach on the up there's no need for Dvorak.
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29 août 2022 à 11 h 27
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With Larkin, Copp, and Suter as our top three centres and with Kasper and Niederbach on the up there's no need for Dvorak.


He can play LW, but if you don't want him its ok
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29 août 2022 à 12 h 0
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He can play LW, but if you don't want him its ok


LW and Centers are the last thing we need, We need more RW then LW and Centers. So Detroit sill passes.
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29 août 2022 à 12 h 5
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Detroit declines. We don't have anyone to replace Hronek right now at RD. Plus our top 6 is set.

Bert/Larkin/Raymond
Vrana/Copp/Perron
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29 août 2022 à 13 h 15
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Detroit declines. We don't have anyone to replace Hronek right now at RD. Plus our top 6 is set.

Bert/Larkin/Raymond
Vrana/Copp/Perron


Yes but Dvorak has 3yrs left on his contract and if they keep him until he has 1 season left this trade has 2yrs before it happens!! Will Hronek still be a Red Wing in 2 years?
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29 août 2022 à 13 h 37
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Short of having a crystal ball this trade is too far away and too specific to really predict with any accuracy. Yes, this could happen I guess so it is plausible but there is a good chance by halfway through the season 1 or both teams won't want it to happen.

Quoting: raph222b
Many commentator will quit their jobs.

A statement like this makes you seem a bit crazy like a 16th century philosopher. It would be much better to say something like: The people saying that have no idea what they are talking about. I have no idea if that is true, but you come off far less crazy saying it that way.
29 août 2022 à 14 h 6
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
With Larkin, Copp, and Suter as our top three centres and with Kasper and Niederbach on the up there's no need for Dvorak.


Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
LW and Centers are the last thing we need, We need more RW then LW and Centers. So Detroit sill passes.


Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
Detroit declines. We don't have anyone to replace Hronek right now at RD. Plus our top 6 is set.

Bert/Larkin/Raymond
Vrana/Copp/Perron


Quoting: aedoran
Yes but Dvorak has 3yrs left on his contract and if they keep him until he has 1 season left this trade has 2yrs before it happens!! Will Hronek still be a Red Wing in 2 years?


All of you besides @aedoran are pretty much using todays team as a basis for why or why not the trade makes sense, which is pretty pointless. Is Dvorak coming off back to back 40 goal seasons? Did Filip Hronek win the Norris trophy? Are both of them starting the year on LTIR? Was Montreal again one of the worst teams in the league for the 3rd year in a row and that 2025 pick is a lottery pick?

Whole lot to unpack here but at that point Hronek isn’t even under contract any longer and neither is Larkin, Vrana, Bertuzzi….

Anyways, that’s probably a TERRIBLE deal for MTL today or 3 years from now 😂
29 août 2022 à 14 h 41
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Quoting: IDKtbh
All of you besides aedoran are pretty much using todays team as a basis for why or why not the trade makes sense, which is pretty pointless. Is Dvorak coming off back to back 40 goal seasons? Did Filip Hronek win the Norris trophy? Are both of them starting the year on LTIR? Was Montreal again one of the worst teams in the league for the 3rd year in a row and that 2025 pick is a lottery pick?

Whole lot to unpack here but at that point Hronek isn’t even under contract any longer and neither is Larkin, Vrana, Bertuzzi….

Anyways, that’s probably a TERRIBLE deal for MTL today or 3 years from now 😂


Oh crap! I didn't realize this was 2024-25. There's probably a good chance Hronek won't be a Red Wing. 🤣
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29 août 2022 à 15 h 44
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Quoting: IDKtbh
All of you besides aedoran are pretty much using todays team as a basis for why or why not the trade makes sense, which is pretty pointless. Is Dvorak coming off back to back 40 goal seasons? Did Filip Hronek win the Norris trophy? Are both of them starting the year on LTIR? Was Montreal again one of the worst teams in the league for the 3rd year in a row and that 2025 pick is a lottery pick?

Whole lot to unpack here but at that point Hronek isn’t even under contract any longer and neither is Larkin, Vrana, Bertuzzi….



Anyways, that’s probably a TERRIBLE deal for MTL today or 3 years from now 😂


in three years time Dvorak is a 29 year old rental. Larkin will still have 6 years left on his contract, Copp will have two years left, Kasper will be on his last year of his ELC and Niederbach will have one year left on his. The only centre in Detroit that might not still be here is Suter.

Why do you think I even mentioned Kasper and Niederbach? Niederbach isn't even signed yet, how can you possibly claim that I'm using today's roster to evaluate the deal?
29 août 2022 à 15 h 52
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
in three years time Dvorak is a 29 year old rental. Larkin will still have 6 years left on his contract, Copp will have two years left, Kasper will be on his last year of his ELC and Niederbach will have one year left on his. The only centre in Detroit that might not still be here is Suter.

Why do you think I even mentioned Kasper and Niederbach? Niederbach isn't even signed yet, how can you possibly claim that I'm using today's roster to evaluate the deal?

Larkin hasn’t been extended and it is possible he’s traded or doesn’t re-sign. (Odds are he re-signs) but he hasn’t yet.

Suter is a free agent after this year and with Copp, Rasmussen & Veleno under team control at least through the next 2 years it is very unlikely he’s re-signed and most likely traded.

Kasper may or may not be ready at that point nor do we know if he will even be good enough to warrant passing on a potentially better option 2 full years from now.

Neiderbach is a fun prospect but it’s 50/50 he doesn’t become a regular NHL player.

So, yeah, you’re kinda putting the cart before the horse deciding if the move makes sense for us or not. But that’s kind of the thing about people making future ACGM’s, most people don’t take them serious enough to comment in such a matter of fact manner like a lot of the people commenting on this one.
 
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