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Wishful Thinking

Créé par: Artsy19
Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 9 août 2022
Publié: 28 août 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2925 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
2850 000 $
1800 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VGK)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
2.
DAL
  1. Foegele, Warren
  2. Samorukov, Dmitri
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VGK)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
3.
MIN
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (BUF)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $79 739 333 $896 000 $2 200 000 $2 760 667 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 6
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12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $925 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Stars de Dallas
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
850 000 $850 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Stars de Dallas
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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28 août 2022 à 12 h 49
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Very wishful
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28 août 2022 à 12 h 54
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Sabres dont need a dman like Barrie
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28 août 2022 à 13 h 6
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A 1st, a 2nd, and Samorukov for such lofty names as... Jani Hakanppa and Luke Glendening? Lol
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28 août 2022 à 13 h 37
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Good old Barrie for Hank without trading Barrie for Hank

Still no from Dallas
28 août 2022 à 14 h 7
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Quoting: SupremeBone
A 1st, a 2nd, and Samorukov for such lofty names as... Jani Hakanppa and Luke Glendening? Lol


Quoting: RobbinGoods
Good old Barrie for Hank without trading Barrie for Hank

Still no from Dallas


Quoting: SupremeBone
A 1st, a 2nd, and Samorukov for such lofty names as... Jani Hakanppa and Luke Glendening? Lol


I want the Oil to be tougher to play against.
28 août 2022 à 14 h 51
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Your right, wishful because Minnesota isn't trading Marcus foligno. In no word would that get you Marcus foligno like ever
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28 août 2022 à 16 h 30
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Quoting: RobbinGoods
Good old Barrie for Hank without trading Barrie for Hank

Still no from Dallas


If a team is willing to give up a 1st and a 2nd for Hakanpaa and Glendening you say yes. Clears up cap space & Edmonton is way overpaying. No reason Dallas says no to this trade.
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28 août 2022 à 19 h 36
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Quoting: TheMooterus
If a team is willing to give up a 1st and a 2nd for Hakanpaa and Glendening you say yes. Clears up cap space & Edmonton is way overpaying. No reason Dallas says no to this trade.


3 mil for Glen and Hank
2.75 for Fogele

250k saved but 1 roster player lost
Bring up Samo to replace Hank.
Down 500k

You can say yes, im still saying no

Stars will be fine wth their own draft picks.
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28 août 2022 à 21 h 4
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Quoting: ProudUncle
Your right, wishful because Minnesota isn't trading Marcus foligno. In no word would that get you Marcus foligno like ever


That IS the most wishful part of this roster!
29 août 2022 à 9 h 3
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Quoting: RobbinGoods
3 mil for Glen and Hank
2.75 for Fogele

250k saved but 1 roster player lost
Bring up Samo to replace Hank.
Down 500k

You can say yes, im still saying no

Stars will be fine wth their own draft picks.


You're talking about replacement level players. You wouldn't pay an additional $500K for to load up another 1st Round Pick and an additional 2nd? Those are essentially free draft picks. If Edmonton were dumb enough to offer this trade, I don't see any team in the league turning it down.
29 août 2022 à 10 h 25
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LOL, every single move you made has resulted in the team being worse. Why would you wish for that?

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29 août 2022 à 13 h 22
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Quoting: TheMooterus
You're talking about replacement level players. You wouldn't pay an additional $500K for to load up another 1st Round Pick and an additional 2nd? Those are essentially free draft picks. If Edmonton were dumb enough to offer this trade, I don't see any team in the league turning it down.


They wouldn’t offer this to begin with. Lol
How much do we pay for a replacement player for Hank? if Hank and Glen can return a player, prospect, a first and a second. Wont the team we are trading with ask for a similar return on a “replacement player”?


Honest question. How much money do you think the Stars have left over after signing Jake and Robo?

Also for this upcoming season, do you think Nill is more likely to trade for a playoff push, or is he more likely to trade to get more prospects?
29 août 2022 à 14 h 46
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Quoting: RobbinGoods
They wouldn’t offer this to begin with. Lol
How much do we pay for a replacement player for Hank? if Hank and Glen can return a player, prospect, a first and a second. Wont the team we are trading with ask for a similar return on a “replacement player”?


Honest question. How much money do you think the Stars have left over after signing Jake and Robo?

Also for this upcoming season, do you think Nill is more likely to trade for a playoff push, or is he more likely to trade to get more prospects?


Of course Edmonton wouldn't offer this deal to begin with. It's way too lopsided in Dallas' favor.

In regards to cap space, Dallas is about $700K shy of the $11M I'm expecting to see come out for Oettinger and Robertson. This money is easy to make up when you realize that Dallas has guys like Olofsson, Peterson, and Harley that are waiver-exempt. Dallas also has Kero who they could send to the AHL through waivers. Am I saying Dallas should send the first 3 to the AHL? No, but they can paper transaction them to the minors to start the year, just long enough to either put Khudobin on LTIR ($3.3M in cap relief), or send him to the AHL ($1.25M in cap relief). Leave Samurokov in the minors, call up Butcher (7th d), Harley, Peterson, and Olofsson. Gives you a 22-man roster with $760K in cap space, assuming you don't recall Kero

And of course Nill isn't going to gut the roster for draft picks, but you're acting like the Stars are giving up vital roster pieces here, when guys like Glendening and Hakanpaa are a dime a dozen. The question you should be asking is whether or not Nill would make a trade that has minimal impact on a playoff push WHILE also adding high value draft picks in return. The answer to that question is a resounding yes. Any GM would do that.
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