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Could they contend

Créé par: bdb
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 22 août 2022
Publié: 22 août 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
How good of a roster could you make mortgaging the future? Tried to stay realistic but I'm sure there will be complaints.
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Zub, Artem
Détails additionnels:
Ottawa improves but still just misses the playoffs and decide to move Zub at the TDL.
OTT
  1. Dickinson, Jason
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
2.
VAN
  1. Dumba, Matt
Détails additionnels:
Minnesota replaces Dumba's ice time and adds cheap young player, decent pick for taking on the last year of Myers deal.
MIN
  1. Höglander, Nils
  2. Myers, Tyler (2 000 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
3.
VAN
  1. Brown, Connor (1 800 000 $ retained)
WSH
  1. Klimovich, Danila
  2. Woo, Jett
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
4.
VAN
  1. Smith, Givani
  2. Suter, Pius (1 000 000 $ retained)
DET
  1. Karlsson, Linus
  2. Pearson, Tanner
  3. Truscott, Jacob [Liste de réserve]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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22 août 2022 à 23 h 23
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The last 3 trades don’t make the team any better
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22 août 2022 à 23 h 40
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Minnesota declines. We aren't trading dumba to take on your cap dumps when we are in cap hell, b prospect and 2nd round pick. Trade Myers elsewhere
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22 août 2022 à 23 h 42
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Massive overpay for Brown considering he was traded for a 2nd a month ago and another massive overpay for Suter who you are putting on the 4th line.
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22 août 2022 à 23 h 44
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Gonna trade a 1st rounder to get a dude to play on the 4th line.
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22 août 2022 à 23 h 56
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Why would Vancouver do that Detroit trade? Detroit takes that in a heartbeat.
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22 août 2022 à 23 h 59
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Quoting: ProudUncle
Minnesota declines. We aren't trading dumba to take on your cap dumps when we are in cap hell, b prospect and 2nd round pick. Trade Myers elsewhere


“B prospect”

If you don’t know s*** about this team you can just say it
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22 août 2022 à 23 h 59
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Edit: Accidental post. Cap friendly
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23 août 2022 à 0 h 0
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Quoting: ProudUncle
Minnesota declines. We aren't trading dumba to take on your cap dumps when we are in cap hell, b prospect and 2nd round pick. Trade Myers elsewhere


Did you just call Hoglander a b prospect?
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23 août 2022 à 0 h 3
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Quoting: The_Rocket
Did you just call Hoglander a b prospect?


I genuinely have no idea. This is like when someone says “awful trade” and doesn’t even know what the trade is
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23 août 2022 à 0 h 5
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Quoting: Jfstompers
Gonna trade a 1st rounder to get a dude to play on the 4th line.


Preds did that once. Traded a 1st to Buffalo for 4C Paul Gaustad.
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23 août 2022 à 0 h 8
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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider
Preds did that once. Traded a 1st to Buffalo for 4C Paul Gaustad.


Was it Pittsburgh who traded a 1st for reaves?
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23 août 2022 à 0 h 14
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Why would Vancouver do that Detroit trade? Detroit takes that in a heartbeat.


Why would Detroit give up their best defensive centre, with retention, for a left winger that's 30 years old that we have no roster spot for, a prospect that will never make the NHL, another prospect that will never even be signed, and a late 1st three years from now, and throw Smith in too?

Detroit declines and keeps Suter. He's worth a lot more than what's offered here.
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23 août 2022 à 0 h 20
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
Why would Detroit give up their best defensive centre, with retention, for a left winger that's 30 years old that we have no roster spot for, a prospect that will never make the NHL, another prospect that will never even be signed, and a late 1st three years from now, and throw Smith in too?

Detroit declines and keeps Suter. He's worth a lot more than what's offered here.

Neither Suter, nor Smith are in our long term plans and we have a logjam at forward as it is. Pearson and the prospects are throw-aways. We'd clear out the logjam by adding a 1st round pick, even if it's down the road. It'd be a no-brainer, come on man...
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23 août 2022 à 0 h 32
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Quoting: The_Rocket
Was it Pittsburgh who traded a 1st for reaves?


Yes. 31st overall but still a 1st. Blues took Kostin with that pick.
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23 août 2022 à 0 h 39
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
Why would Detroit give up their best defensive centre, with retention, for a left winger that's 30 years old that we have no roster spot for, a prospect that will never make the NHL, another prospect that will never even be signed, and a late 1st three years from now, and throw Smith in too?

Detroit declines and keeps Suter. He's worth a lot more than what's offered here.

Lmaooo, this guy really tried to rationalize not taking the trade for Detroit. Delusion is DEEP over here.
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23 août 2022 à 0 h 44
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Why would Vancouver do that Detroit trade? Detroit takes that in a heartbeat.


23 août 2022 à 0 h 52
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Quoting: The_Rocket
The last 3 trades don’t make the team any better


Disagree, the idea is to build a 1 year contender with trades that the other teams fanbase would accept. I purposely skewed the value to acquire an available player who IMO would be an upgrade regardless of cost. Zub,Dumba, Suter, Brown and Smith is an upgrade over Myers, Hoglander and Pearson, Dickenson in vacuum.

I'll likely make another in the same vein but I'm curious what other contending rosters fans can make using the current core.
23 août 2022 à 0 h 54
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Neither Suter, nor Smith are in our long term plans and we have a logjam at forward as it is. Pearson and the prospects are throw-aways. We'd clear out the logjam by adding a 1st round pick, even if it's down the road. It'd be a no-brainer, come on man...


Who will play 3C this season with Suter gone?

And before you answer that with Veleno or Rasmussen, please look up their stats first.

The reason you make trades is to make your team better, now and in the future. The only thing in that trade offer that is worth anything at all is the late 1st and the player picked with that pick will not make the NHL until 2028 at the earliest, if he ever does.

You are giving up a very good defensive centre for someone that maybe will make the team six years from now, and you think that's a good idea?
23 août 2022 à 0 h 55
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Quoting: ProudUncle
Minnesota declines. We aren't trading dumba to take on your cap dumps when we are in cap hell, b prospect and 2nd round pick. Trade Myers elsewhere


Dumba likely walks next season, if the wild miss the playoffs they could get a better deal but Myers isn't a huge downgrade and allows them to fill a top 4 spot for 2m less as well as pick up a you cost controlled player with upside and a decent pick.
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23 août 2022 à 0 h 56
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
Who will play 3C this season with Suter gone?

And before you answer that with Veleno or Rasmussen, please look up their stats first.

The reason you make trades is to make your team better, now and in the future. The only thing in that trade offer that is worth anything at all is the late 1st and the player picked with that pick will not make the NHL until 2028 at the earliest, if he ever does.

You are giving up a very good defensive centre for someone that maybe will make the team six years from now, and you think that's a good idea?


For what it's worth these were all supposed to be TDL trades and the assumption is that Ottawa, Detroit and Washington miss the playoffs.
23 août 2022 à 0 h 56
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Quoting: bdb
Dumba likely walks next season, if the wild miss the playoffs they could get a better deal but Myers isn't a huge downgrade and allows them to fill a top 4 spot for 2m less as well as pick up a you cost controlled player with upside and a decent pick.


We are stacked with d even if he leaves. You might want to do some research on wild D core. Still declines. We aren't making our cap worse for anyone when we already have problems
23 août 2022 à 0 h 58
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Quoting: Warpbox
“B prospect”

If you don’t know s*** about this team you can just say it


B prospect who declines under Bruce. Coaching staff wants to trade him. So yeah, a player who barely plays and doesn't have service time is a prospect
23 août 2022 à 0 h 58
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Quoting: Jfstompers
Gonna trade a 1st rounder to get a dude to play on the 4th line.


To win a cup, absolutely. It's not the same as paying a 1st for a 4th line quality player.
23 août 2022 à 0 h 59
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Quoting: The_Rocket
Did you just call Hoglander a b prospect?


It's amazing Vancouver fans get mad when someone says their players aren't good , or a player who distressed after his 1st season, abd fell into Bruce dg house os still essentially a prospect who hasn't shown much
23 août 2022 à 1 h 1
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Quoting: ProudUncle
It's amazing Vancouver fans get mad when someone says their players aren't good , or a player who distressed after his 1st season, abd fell into Bruce dg house os still essentially a prospect who hasn't shown much


The guy with 100+ NHL games is still a prospect? Speaking of which, have you heard of wild prospect Kaprisov?
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