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Chychrun move

Créé par: justaBoss
Équipe: 2022-23 Coyotes de l'Arizona
Date de création initiale: 20 août 2022
Publié: 20 août 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 750 000 $
Transactions
1.
ARI
  1. Järventie, Roby
  2. Thomson, Lassi
  3. Zaitsev, Nikita
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
Conditional picks:

- 2023 1st is Top3 protected. Should OTT get a top3 pick in the 2023 Draft, OTT will retain the pick, and send an unconditional 2024 1st round pick to ARI instead.

- 2024 1st is Top10 protected. Should OTT get a top10 pick in the 2024 draft, OTT will retain the pick and send an uncondtional 2025 1st round pick instead.

- Should the first condition hold true (OTT falling into bottom-3), the condition from the 2024 1st round pick will be held back by one year, with ARI receiving a top10 protected 2025 1st round pick instead.

- Should both of the earlier conditions hold true (OTT falling into bottom-3 in 2022-23 and bottom-10 in 2023-24), ARI receives unprotected 2025 and 2026 1st round picks as well as the lower of 2024 2nd round picks OTT owns
2.
ARI
  1. Khudobin, Anton
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (DAL)
DAL
    Future considerations
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    20 août 2022 à 7 h 33
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    If the reported ask is a good prospect and two 1sts, there's no way Ottawa is giving Jarventie AND Thomson imo. If they add a 2nd prospect it'll almost certainly be Merilainen given Arizona's horrible G depth, and if the other prospect is Thomson I don't think they should be giving up a 2nd prospect at all.
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    20 août 2022 à 10 h 14
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    1st, Thomson = two firsts (but better because you know what you are getting roughly with a near ready prospect)

    1st, Jarventie = same.

    Debrincat went for a top 10 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Not exactly the same, but with Chabot and Sanderson - not sure they will sell the farm. Eichel went for two former first round picked prospects, a conditional first and a second. Hard to argue Chychrun worth more.
    20 août 2022 à 12 h 6
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    Too much to move Dobby. Easy pass. Would rather they bought him out

    Wayyyyy too much for Chych. Y’all cray
    20 août 2022 à 14 h 39
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    If the reported ask is a good prospect and two 1sts, there's no way Ottawa is giving Jarventie AND Thomson imo. If they add a 2nd prospect it'll almost certainly be Merilainen given Arizona's horrible G depth, and if the other prospect is Thomson I don't think they should be giving up a 2nd prospect at all.


    Quoting: Ottawasean
    1st, Thomson = two firsts (but better because you know what you are getting roughly with a near ready prospect)

    1st, Jarventie = same.

    Debrincat went for a top 10 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Not exactly the same, but with Chabot and Sanderson - not sure they will sell the farm. Eichel went for two former first round picked prospects, a conditional first and a second. Hard to argue Chychrun worth more.


    One of the firsts is to dump Zaitsev. If Monahan dump cost a first, so will Zaitsev. Thomson+Järventie+1st for Chychrun is, while quite a lot, not completely out of question.

    Quoting: SlevinKalevra
    Too much to move Dobby. Easy pass. Would rather they bought him out

    Wayyyyy too much for Chych. Y’all cray


    At this rate I don't think DAL could dump him for anything less. Cap dumping is exceptionally expensive right now.
    20 août 2022 à 16 h 57
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    One of the firsts is to dump Zaitsev. If Monahan dump cost a first, so will Zaitsev. Thomson+Järventie+1st for Chychrun is, while quite a lot, not completely out of question.



    At this rate I don't think DAL could dump him for anything less. Cap dumping is exceptionally expensive right now.


    I never said that a second do dump him wasn’t prolly the ask. I said that’s too much. I’m on team buyout Faksa at this point
    20 août 2022 à 19 h 31
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    I never said that a second do dump him wasn’t prolly the ask. I said that’s too much. I’m on team buyout Faksa at this point


    Me too but if we're being real, Dobby dump is much more likely to happen than a Faksa buyout
    20 août 2022 à 22 h 39
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    One of the firsts is to dump Zaitsev. If Monahan dump cost a first, so will Zaitsev. Thomson+Järventie+1st for Chychrun is, while quite a lot, not completely out of question.
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    Fair comment - but Zaitsev is a $4.5M per year with $2M bonus already paid. He is $7 M over 2 years for a team reaching for the bottom is the cap floor. First is fair - Monahan, Marleau were both $6M+ for a 1st. But Mrazek ($3.8 M over 2 years) was swapped to downgrade from a late first to a high second.

    Somewhere between perhaps
    20 août 2022 à 22 h 53
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    Me too but if we're being real, Dobby dump is much more likely to happen than a Faksa buyout


    If they’re looking at advanced statistics like they say they are, Faksa should stick out like a sore thumb
    22 août 2022 à 8 h 43
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    Quoting: Ottawasean
    Fair comment - but Zaitsev is a $4.5M per year with $2M bonus already paid. He is $7 M over 2 years for a team reaching for the bottom is the cap floor. First is fair - Monahan, Marleau were both $6M+ for a 1st. But Mrazek ($3.8 M over 2 years) was swapped to downgrade from a late first to a high second.

    Somewhere between perhaps


    Two differences between Mrazek dump.

    First, CHI actually needed a goalie. They did not have a single NHL goalie under contract at the beginning of the offseason, so it made sense for them to add a goalie there. This was not exactly a strict cap dump. But as it stands, no one needs Zaitsev.

    Second, Marleau and Monahan were, despite being paid a lot to dump, decent-ish players, just overpaid (well Marleau was bought out as he didn't agree to play in Carolina). Meanwhile Zaitsev is absolute garbage. The actual salary left to pay is not that much, but at this rate that doesn't have nearly as big of a meaning as his cap hit, considering how tight the cap is around the league.
     
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