Muzzin at this stage is an albatross contract. Very tough to move.

Leafs fan yes. Realist too.

I’m not too worried cause the rangers and pens r significantly weaker after this off season. Adding Romanov should fix their left side cause Salo was ok when he played last year. Not saying they r world beaters but I think they don’t have to rely on making it thru the wild card.

Lou resigned productive veterans. That doesn’t mean he’s trying to trade all his young talent. He just acquired a long term d partner for Dobson. Jesus h Christ.

This dude needs to stop pretending this is what Lou wants because Lou’s moves up to this point are completely different. Lou is relying on internal development and coaching to get this team to the playoffs. And honestly I think Lambert can get more out of this team than Trotz did last year.

But according to you theyre not trying to win now. So why keep clutter to kill penalties when hes going to be retired when theyre trying to compete instead of using that spot to see if a young guy who will still be around when the time comes to compete will be able to help? It has nothing to do with if the signings were good or bad, i liked both signings ffs. But they only make sense in the context of trying to win now.

Bergevin did the same thing.

Where are the Habs? And where is Bergevin?

I think Lou did the Islanders a huge disservice not moving Varlamov. Now, that could be in part of he didn't like the return, part Varlamov wasn't waiving a NTC part thinking the team is actually that good.

Not moving Mayfield is a disservice. That guy actually nets you a young middle 6 forward, and although fantastic, a move you make considering he is getting 3rd paring minutes.

Or maybe Lou sees a more robust system than you think exists.

I look at the Islanders, and I maintain stay the course. One step back, two steps foward.

Again you seem to lack the critical thinking skills necessary to differentiate between what lou is doing and what you think he should be doing. Trying to win now doesnt mean he will succeed in winning, it means thats his plan or strategy.

I like the direction frankly. That top 4 in two years should be one of the best in the NHL. Sorokin a Vezina candidate.

Guy lacks long term thinking.

You are deliberately misconstruing what I said. First off just because we don’t believe in this group doesn’t mean Lou agrees with us. Secondly it doesn’t seem like Lou has done anything to make this roster significantly older. He retained two veterans who can help this team remain competitive rn. Building and rebuilding r two different things.

Ahhh.... The Rangers still need a top 6 forward (never sold on Kakko), and the Pens I think are staus quo. Canes should win the division, Rangers and Caps should battle for 2nd (Sheshterkin is that good), leaving the Pens, Isles and dare I say Jackets? to battle for 3rd.

The Atlantic top 2 should be the Cats and Lightning. Leafs "should" finish 3rd (although the goaltending Sabres me more than it has since Alan Bester), Boston and Ottawa will make a push.

Leaving..... Isles, Pens, Jackets, Sens, Boston battling for wildcards or 3rd spots.

Not even sure the Isles stack up to that. Adding Connor isn't changing that.

Yeah but their value peaked around the deadline. I don’t disagree with you but they weren’t moving Varlamov before they added Romanov. Varly is too close with Sorokin to move him without finding Soroky a new friend lol.

If the Isles are a bubble team, those opportunities will arise again.

Lmaoooo dufour was a 20yo power forward/sniper in the Q. You know what happens to all those players that dominate younger opponents bc of their size in juniors? When they start playing against players that are just as big amd strong their game goes down the tubes. He also is a 1 trick pony and given the fact that his trick will get worse as he progresses up levels irdk aside from blind homerism how you can think that he will be anything more than a 3rd liner.
As for holmstrom he was a low ceiling pick on draft day and after a couple bad years in the ahl 1 decent year isnt all of the sudden going to make him this top prospect. Its time to get your expectations in check.
That 1 game against the kings a couple years ago when bellows had 2 goals probably had you thinking he was ovi 2.0 smdh

I’m not a big fan of the fan rangers or capitals roster rn. I don’t trust the rangers forwards or the capitals defense or goaltending. I also believe a lot of guys on the isles roster can still be effective enough to help win games in the regular season.

Seems like accolades are all you care about. Comparing cirelli and dufour is like comparing barzal and ovi. Completely different players in every regard.

Overwhelming consensus as its 2v1. That doesnt seem like an overwhelming consensus to me. Living in an echo chamber doesmt mean there are actually more voices.

Lmao I can’t even remember Bellows playing against the kings tbh. No with dufour saying he’s a one trick pony isn’t accurate. He has a well rounded game in his own zone, he can play some center and he penalty kills. With Holmstrom I agree he was a mediocre pick but he’s a good skater who plays a 200 foot game. Even if he doesn’t have tremendous skill I still like what he can bring as a 3rd liner.

I legit didn’t compare the two in terms of style. I said they r both late bloomers.

Yes but Leafs fans and Isles fans aren’t meant to agree. But I have to give you credit for helping to bridge the divide between our two fanbases lmao.

You should probably watch more of Dufour tbh. Describing him as a sniper isn’t entirely accurate considering how well rounded his game is. I didn’t say he’s an all star I said he can be a good middle six player. I believe both him and Holmstrom have the necessary skills to be good complimentary pieces. Sometimes that means those guys play 2nd, 3rd and 4th line, but other times you get a breakout performer like Verhaeghe. I’m just not willing to rule either option out because they r so young.

I can see that point of view. Overall, a lot of teams will compete. Islanders just not a lock.

Live in denial.

Cannot help those that don't want to be helped.

Congratulations you completely missed the point once again. Im not saying the isles will win this season. What im saying is lou thinks they can and is trying to win this season. I do not believe the isles can win a cup as presently constructed, but lou does. Your reading comprehension is and i dont mean to be a dick i just dont know how else to say it, your reading comprehension is legit on the level of a middle schooler. The fact that you cant understand the difference between what i believe and what im saying someone else believes when ive said it like 6 times should be a cause of great concern.

Lmaoooo imagine comparing nylander to kyle connor

Not as crazy as you make it out to be lol. I think the point was how good Dobson can be.