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(CGY/FLA) - Tkachuk for Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt

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12 mai 2023 à 22 h 43
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Quoting: kdawg32086
Curious to see if anyone's thoughts have changed on this, given how one-sided the voting was.


I'm surprised how many people on a salary cap website didn't get the rationale of this trade.

The got the best player in the deal, and they would have lost Weegar anyway had they extended Huberdeau. This is due to their being a cap ceiling.

People have a difficult time understanding that value of players can be dynamic and different team to team based on the unique situation each team is in. If Florida was uneasy about being the team who signs Huberdeau through his 30s to superstar money, and couldn't to keep both Huberdeau and Weegar regardless, what they actually gave up to acquire Tkachuk wasn't that substantial.
13 mai 2023 à 13 h 59
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I'm surprised how many people on a salary cap website didn't get the rationale of this trade.

The got the best player in the deal, and they would have lost Weegar anyway had they extended Huberdeau. This is due to their being a cap ceiling.

People have a difficult time understanding that value of players can be dynamic and different team to team based on the unique situation each team is in. If Florida was uneasy about being the team who signs Huberdeau through his 30s to superstar money, and couldn't to keep both Huberdeau and Weegar regardless, what they actually gave up to acquire Tkachuk wasn't that substantial.


Actually I thought it was good trade for all parties last summer. An extended Tkachuk for one year of Huberdeau, Weager and a first. Flames traded one year of Tkachuck. The Flames really screwed up by resigning Huberdeau to the that contract. Imagine if the Flames didn't extended, and traded Hiberdeau and Weager at TDL. Maybe a first rounder for each player, and 16.75m in cap this summer by not resigning those two players.
14 mai 2023 à 19 h 4
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Actually I thought it was good trade for all parties last summer. An extended Tkachuk for one year of Huberdeau, Weager and a first. Flames traded one year of Tkachuck. The Flames really screwed up by resigning Huberdeau to the that contract. Imagine if the Flames didn't extended, and traded Hiberdeau and Weager at TDL. Maybe a first rounder for each player, and 16.75m in cap this summer by not resigning those two players.


It was a win for everybody given their chosen position.

It's looking bad for the Flames in the short term, but with a coaching change and a new system, it isn't unreasonable that Huberdeau might bounce back.
14 mai 2023 à 20 h 1
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It was a win for everybody given their chosen position.

It's looking bad for the Flames in the short term, but with a coaching change and a new system, it isn't unreasonable that Huberdeau might bounce back.


Yes it is unreasonable. Huberdeau is life long 75 point player. A 75 point LWer rates 19th among LWer last season in PPG. To expect him to play to his contract....the second highest paid LWer, is a bad contract by any standard. To think at age 30 when the contract stars he's going to keep a 75 point a year pace....well that would be surprising./
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22 mai 2023 à 22 h 52
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This poll and thread are a great reminder that most of us on this site - myself included - have no idea wtf we're talking about.
23 mai 2023 à 1 h 24
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This poll and thread are a great reminder that most of us on this site - myself included - have no idea wtf we're talking about.


No, it was a good trade for both teams, since Tkachuk was not going to resign with Flames. A good Huberdeau and Weager and afirst.....that's fair
Where the Flames absolutely blew it was resigning Huberdeau and Weager. Huberdeau eight contract starts at age 30, and makes him the second highest paid LWer....gee that's bad
Even Weager's 6.25m contract takes to age 37 isn't going to age well likely.
Trevling should never be a GM due to those signings......so typically the Leafs apparently are going to sign him. Leafs have long list of GMs who never had any appreciation of the cap....Ferguson, Burke, Nonis and Dubas.
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24 mai 2023 à 23 h 11
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When you get a two top like players at the price of one but the other team makes the finals, while you don’t even make the playoffs:
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25 mai 2023 à 0 h 17
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At this point, even Huberdeau understands that this trade was probably worth making.
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