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Not a Tkachuk Deal

Créé par: cbjthrowaway
Équipe: 2022-23 Blue Jackets de Columbus
Date de création initiale: 22 juill. 2022
Publié: 22 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Not sure if this would actually work / be palatable on either end, just seeing if there's a way for CBJ to fill its biggest holes to immediately become competitive in one fell swoop.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
68 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
CBJ
  1. Martinez, Alec (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (VGK)
2.
CBJ
  1. Andersson, Rasmus
  2. Lindholm, Elias
Détails additionnels:
CGY gets:
- a top line forward (Bjorky) on a friendly deal
- two top-six forwards (Nyquist + Roslo) who can be flipped if they fall out of contention
- two recent first round picks (Chinny + Ceulemans)
- two first rounders
CGY
  1. Bjorkstrand, Oliver
  2. Ceulemans, Corson [Liste de réserve]
  3. Chinakhov, Yegor
  4. Nyquist, Gustav
  5. Roslovic, Jack
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
  7. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
2023 1st is top 5 protected (slides to 2025)

CBJ fills its two biggest roster holes with star players on affordable deals.
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22 juill. 2022 à 13 h 52
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No. Just... no. This is a brutal look for Columbus, pushing every chip to the middle at a time when they should be keeping their powder a little drier for the future. And Laine is gonna need more $$$ than you gave him here. Probably at least another $500K.
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22 juill. 2022 à 13 h 58
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No Johnson, no Sillinger, no Jiricek, no deal. You want Lindholm and Anderssen it’s going to cost at least 2 of those 3, and multiple 1st round picks to get it done.

Also Vegas likely doesn’t retain on Martinez.
22 juill. 2022 à 14 h 4
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Quoting: benjgc
No. Just... no. This is a brutal look for Columbus, pushing every chip to the middle at a time when they should be keeping their powder a little drier for the future. And Laine is gonna need more $$$ than you gave him here. Probably at least another $500K.


I don't view this as pushing every chip to the table or sacrificing the future. The long-term core is Gaudreau, Laine, Werenski, Sillinger, Johnson, Jiricek and Mateychuk. Bjorkstrand is arguably in that group as well, but at a position where they're already deep. After this trade, Andersson goes into that long-term core and Lindholm joins him if they can work out an extension.

Ceulemans is blocked long-term by Jiricek (and, if this trade happened, Andersson) – they also have Boqvist as a potential top-four RHD. Chinakhov is a really nice prospect but they're not hurting for wingers long-term, either. Texier and Marchenko have just as much of a shot to be long-term top six wings as Chinakhov.

Roslovic + Nyquist are both good players who aren't long-term, core pieces for Columbus.

The two picks would be a lot to swallow, but if they build in a protection in case they stink this year and win the lotto, they shouldn't miss them too much.
22 juill. 2022 à 14 h 6
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That's not gonna get it done for Calgary
22 juill. 2022 à 14 h 9
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Quoting: Ajp_18
No Johnson, no Sillinger, no Jiricek, no deal. You want Lindholm and Anderssen it’s going to cost at least 2 of those 3, and multiple 1st round picks to get it done.

Also Vegas likely doesn’t retain on Martinez.


First comment said it was too much for Columbus to give, second says it's not enough. FWIW, the first version of this I tried had Tanev instead of Andersson, with the CBJ side having one first rounder and Foudy instead of Chinakhov, but it felt like a worse fit for each side in my dumb brain.

As for the second part, Vegas gets two defensemen and saves a little under $2m of cap this year. Doesn't have to be Martinez or Vegas specifically, just wanted to add a veteran LHD as I don't feel great about a Peeke-Gudbranson pair and I think the ship has sailed on Bean.
22 juill. 2022 à 14 h 16
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Quoting: cbjthrowaway
First comment said it was too much for Columbus to give, second says it's not enough. FWIW, the first version of this I tried had Tanev instead of Andersson, with the CBJ side having one first rounder and Foudy instead of Chinakhov, but it felt like a worse fit for each side in my dumb brain.

As for the second part, Vegas gets two defensemen and saves a little under $2m of cap this year. Doesn't have to be Martinez or Vegas specifically, just wanted to add a veteran LHD as I don't feel great about a Peeke-Gudbranson pair and I think the ship has sailed on Bean.


The trade is too much for Columbus to give up and your trade isn’t enough for Calgary to accept. If Calgary moves those two it’ll be total rebuild and the roster players have little value to them, meaning they would put more emphasis on the picks and prospects.
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22 juill. 2022 à 14 h 20
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This is probably a bit too much on Columbus' end. Andersson and Lindholm are the exact kind of guys they should be targeting, but this team feels incredibly top heavy at forward and d
22 juill. 2022 à 14 h 41
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Quoting: qc14
This is probably a bit too much on Columbus' end. Andersson and Lindholm are the exact kind of guys they should be targeting, but this team feels incredibly top heavy at forward and d


Top heavy on defense, yes. But add Jiricek to that group in a year (maybe Mateychuk too) and it suddenly looks sick.

I think the third and fourth lines are generally fine, albeit unproven in spots. Marchenko is highly regarded and Johnson could become a superstar, though.

Quoting: Ajp_18
The trade is too much for Columbus to give up and your trade isn’t enough for Calgary to accept. If Calgary moves those two it’ll be total rebuild and the roster players have little value to them, meaning they would put more emphasis on the picks and prospects.


Quoting: Ajp_18
The trade is too much for Columbus to give up and your trade isn’t enough for Calgary to accept. If Calgary moves those two it’ll be total rebuild and the roster players have little value to them, meaning they would put more emphasis on the picks and prospects.


If anything, I agree that it's probably not enough for Calgary to accept. I think the value is there for Columbus, though, since there are only so many spots for wingers and defense, and we're flush with prospects in those spots. Only so many of those guys can play. Gaudreau is signed for seven years but IMO it's smart to weaponize that organizational depth to maximize their chances at a deep playoff run within the next 2-4 years, since he's already nearing 30.
 
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