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Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 22 juill. 2022
Publié: 22 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
88 000 000 $
Transactions
WPG
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Dach, Kirby [Droits de RFA]
  3. Dvorak, Christian
  4. Hoffman, Mike
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de MTL
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Logo de PIT
Logo de VGK
Logo de MTL
Logo de CGY
Logo de MTL
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2024
Logo de MTL
Logo de COL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de EDM
2025
Logo de MTL
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Logo de MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $76 670 833 $1 132 500 $5 920 000 $5 829 167 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance507 500 $$508K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2

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22 juill. 2022 à 13 h 24
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Just waiting for Windjammer to come shred this lol
22 juill. 2022 à 13 h 31
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That doesn't get you perfetti alone lol
22 juill. 2022 à 14 h 7
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Windjammer if he was a hockey player is a guy like Brad Marchand. Love him on your team and hate him if he is not. Kind of happy he is on our side.smile
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22 juill. 2022 à 14 h 8
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That doesn't get you DeMelo.
22 juill. 2022 à 14 h 10
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Quoting: Just_A_Guess
Just waiting for Windjammer to come shred this lol


For discussions sake it would be nice if Montreal fans at least tried to use a little realism in their offers so we would have something to actually talk about.
22 juill. 2022 à 14 h 39
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Quoting: Windjammer
For discussions sake it would be nice if Montreal fans at least tried to use a little realism in their offers so we would have something to actually talk about.


https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/618927/2

Best I can do to make it as reasonable as possible.
22 juill. 2022 à 14 h 49
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Quoting: Blazingbat11
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/618927/2

Best I can do to make it as reasonable as possible.


That's actually fairly reasonable. You're adding a first for taking Armia and giving decent value for Dubois. The only thing I could see Chevy holding back on is the top 10 protection.

If the pick is outside of the top 10 then another prospect like Barron needs to be added. Dvorak and a mid 1st round pick isn't enough value for 2 years of Dubois.

But I appreciate that you tried to give value in the deal.
22 juill. 2022 à 15 h 5
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Quoting: Windjammer
That's actually fairly reasonable. You're adding a first for taking Armia and giving decent value for Dubois. The only thing I could see Chevy holding back on is the top 10 protection.

If the pick is outside of the top 10 then another prospect like Barron needs to be added. Dvorak and a mid 1st round pick isn't enough value for 2 years of Dubois.

But I appreciate that you tried to give value in the deal.


I disagree with your distribution of the value I proposed, but it's really just nitpicking. "Adding" a 1st for Armia doesn't add up. In the trade he's a zero sum asset. If Chevy would demand more just for including him, I would exclude him from the deal altogether and look elsewhere to alleviate more cap space. So you're essentially getting a roster player (Dvorak) + two 1st rd picks. which is essentially the rental price you'd get for PLD elsewhere.

EDIT: No chance you get MTL's unprotected 1st under any circumstance, and asking to add more value for adding top 10 protection in one of the deepest draft in over a decade , to the point of asking Barron, is a deal breaker.
22 juill. 2022 à 15 h 6
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Quoting: Blazingbat11
I disagree with your distribution of the value I proposed, but it's really just nitpicking. "Adding" a 1st for Armia doesn't add up. In the trade he's a zero sum asset. If Chevy would demand more just for including him, I would exclude him from the deal altogether and look elsewhere to alleviate more cap space. So you're essentially getting a roster player (Dvorak) + two 1st rd picks. which is essentially the rental price you'd get for PLD elsewhere.


Okay, I see. Yeah you'd have to move Armia elsewhere, but other than that, I think Chevy is at least talking.
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22 juill. 2022 à 15 h 29
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Quoting: Windjammer
For discussions sake it would be nice if Montreal fans at least tried to use a little realism in their offers so we would have something to actually talk about.


Some deals are bad but there are a few at-least-we-can-discuss ones.
I had offered one a few days ago and from the comments you seemed to be in the minority,thinking it wasn't a good deal.
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3469617

Its not possible anymore and did count on the fact that we traded Peatry for a first.... But hey, I think I would of been a good starting point.
One thing to think of is what if his value drops throughout the year? What then for Wpg?

But as of right now, think it's better to way 1 or 2 years before talking about PLD.
22 juill. 2022 à 16 h 1
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Some deals are bad but there are a few at-least-we-can-discuss ones.
I had offered one a few days ago and from the comments you seemed to be in the minority,thinking it wasn't a good deal.
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3469617

Its not possible anymore and did count on the fact that we traded Peatry for a first.... But hey, I think I would of been a good starting point.
One thing to think of is what if his value drops throughout the year? What then for Wpg?

But as of right now, think it's better to way 1 or 2 years before talking about PLD.


There's probably a better chance of his value going up with a good season. Yes, things can happen that lower value as well, but that's not thigh of a reason to accept a bad trade now.

You are right though, the most likely scenario is that we are all here again next summer talking about the same thing.
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22 juill. 2022 à 16 h 31
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Quoting: Windjammer
There's probably a better chance of his value going up with a good season. Yes, things can happen that lower value as well, but that's not thigh of a reason to accept a bad trade now.


Spoken like a rational man.

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You are right though, the most likely scenario is that we are all here again next summer talking about the same thing.


Fun times ahead!
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