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Créé par: aldore
Équipe: 2022-23 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 21 juill. 2022
Publié: 21 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Let’s look at the last 2 players in a similar situation as Matthew. Debrincat went for 3 picks. A 1st,2nd, and 3rd. He is 2 years away from UFA so had one more year of team control than Matthew. Not as well rounded of a player, lacks size but still a 40 goal scorer and definitely a great player any team would want to have. Then there’s fiala, an rfa with a year till UFA. He was traded for a mid first and a prospect. He was a ppg guy. Again, not tkachuk good but a great player. Minis it’s had cap trouble so they didn’t have much leverage. Chicago could have done whatever they wanted as their was no reason. Calgary doesn’t have much leverage. Tkachuk already said he’s not signing long term. They have like 3 weeks where the arbitration is going to happen and they likely want to get him moved before that so they aren’t forced to walk him to UFA. He also only has a few teams he would want to sign with. Most of which are also cap strapped and would struggle to Fit in a long term deal. This puts Calgary in a really bad spot to get the highest return but they are definitely going to try. They have to or the organization us screwed.

Couple packages I could see. Blues obviously need to move out salary to make it happen. Bet Doug wishes we didn’t have Leddy 4M now.
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    Matthew tkachuk
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      Vladdy, kyrou, 2024 1st and 2nd
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      STL
        Allegedly offered before all this arbitration stuff. Wonder if they reconsider
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          Kyrou, krug, 2023 1st
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            Kyrou, Bolduc 23 1st, scandella
            4.
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              Barby, Bolduc, snuggy, 23 1st
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                Vlad, Barby, Bolduc, 23 1st 24 2nd
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                STL
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                  Barby, hofer, Bolduc, Robertson, 23 1st 242nd
                  7.
                  STL
                    Obviously a wide range of values. I’m wondering how much leverage Matthew actually has and how cheap we could get him for. Surely one of these would work. Ideally one of the cheaper ones. Would love to keep kyrou although lap gets tough next year.

                    Let me know what you think
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                    2024
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                    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
                    2282 500 000 $72 500 000 $1 100 000 $250 000 $10 000 000 $
                    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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                    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
                    AG, AD
                    NTC
                    UFA - 4
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                    1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
                    C
                    UFA - 1
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                    3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
                    AD
                    NTC
                    UFA - 1
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                    750 000 $750 000 $
                    AG
                    UFA - 1
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                    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
                    C, AG
                    NTC
                    UFA - 6
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                    5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
                    AG, AD, C
                    M-NTC
                    UFA - 3
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                    2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
                    C, AD
                    UFA - 1
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                    2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
                    AD
                    UFA - 1
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                    2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
                    AG, AD
                    UFA - 1
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                    750 000 $750 000 $
                    AD, AG
                    UFA - 1
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                    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
                    C, AD
                    UFA - 1
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                    750 000 $750 000 $
                    C, AG
                    RFA - 1
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                    750 000 $750 000 $
                    AG, AD
                    RFA - 1
                    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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                    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
                    DG
                    NTC
                    UFA - 5
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                    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
                    DD
                    NTC
                    UFA - 5
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                    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
                    G
                    NTC
                    UFA - 5
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                    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
                    DG
                    NTC
                    UFA - 4
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                    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
                    DD
                    NTC
                    UFA - 8
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                    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $$250K)
                    G
                    UFA - 1
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                    1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
                    DG
                    UFA - 1
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                    950 000 $950 000 $
                    DD
                    UFA - 2
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                    3 275 000 $3 275 000 $
                    DG
                    M-NTC
                    UFA - 2

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                    21 juill. 2022 à 3 h 1
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                    mokumboi
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                    "Allegedly offered before all this arbitration stuff. "


                    No, it wasn't. It was an off-hand example right after JR kinda dismissively said he hears a lot of things. It was in no way a report, he clearly did not really have any scoop on it and Andy Strickland shot it down hard.
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                    21 juill. 2022 à 3 h 6
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                    If I’m being honest, Kyrou being dealt at all loses the trade for the Blues right there. I’d offer Perunovich, Barbashev, 1st round pick, and conditional 2nd/3rd. You’re getting a 23 y/o Hobey Baker winner, a middle 6 C/LW that’s resignable, 2 draft picks in deep drafts.
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                    21 juill. 2022 à 3 h 7
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                    Xercuses
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                    Kyrou wont be part of it imo
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                    21 juill. 2022 à 3 h 35
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                    Hi
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                    If it involves Kyrou... no. I'd be open to giving them a huge haul if that's what it takes, so long as it doesn't involve Kyrou. Kid is a 30 + goal, 90 point player if he gets a full season with top line and top pp time. League is shifting towards speed, and he's the fricken speed demon.
                    21 juill. 2022 à 9 h 51
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                    aldore
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                    I would love to do it without kyrou I just don’t see how it gets done. And Matthew is a lot better than kyrou in every aspect of the game
                     
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