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Créé par: Boojets
Équipe: 2022-23 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 18 juill. 2022
Publié: 18 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
34 000 000 $
21 500 000 $
2950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
34 750 000 $
Transactions
1.
WPG
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni
  2. Dvorak, Christian
  3. Roy, Joshua
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
Détails additionnels:
the Montreal pick is top 5 protected. This is the cost of a 1c if Montreal doesn't like it wait for 2 yrs
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
2.
WPG
  1. Zucker, Jason (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
PIT
  1. Wheeler, Blake (1 500 000 $ retained)
3.
WPG
  1. Hamonic, Travis
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
4.
WPG
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Droits de RFA]
EDM
  1. Harkins, Jansen
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (WSH)
5.
WPG
  1. Severson, Damon
Détails additionnels:
Signs a new deal 5yr at 5.75mil
6.
VGK
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
7.
WPG
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (COL)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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Logo de OTT
Logo de COL
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Logo de NYR
Logo de WPG
2024
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de ANA
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $77 408 690 $0 $2 262 500 $5 091 310 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
7 142 857 $7 142 857 $
AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 900 000 $5 900 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
950 000 $950 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 166 667 $6 166 667 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
900 000 $900 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
5 950 000 $5 950 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 30
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It is the normal price, not the price a team pays when they know they can just sign him for free.

I get the commotion about this possibility but theres no way Winnipeg gets proper value for PLD from MTL
18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 30
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That's way too much to ask for Dubois, even if it wasn't the current situation lol (and I'm a Jets fan)
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18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 38
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Montreal gladly waits the two years instead of paying that ridiculous price. They're rebuilding anyways.
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18 juill. 2022 à 11 h 58
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See ya in 2
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18 juill. 2022 à 12 h 1
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
It is the normal price, not the price a team pays when they know they can just sign him for free.

I get the commotion about this possibility but theres no way Winnipeg gets proper value for PLD from MTL


Its not even the normal price, it's literally 4 1st round picks (one likely between 6-8) and 2 2nd round picks for PLD... that's a massive ask even if PLD was signed to 8 years × 6 or even 5.5M
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18 juill. 2022 à 12 h 15
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That is way too expensive for PLD even in normal circumstances. You are overvaluing him by way too much.

That's basically 4 x 1st RD picks in the 1st Rounders, Roy (would have been one this year) and Dvorak which costs a 1st.
Then there's Dadonov who can fetch a good amount at the TDL.

That's a massive haul for PLD, who, although young, still has yet to accomplish much of anything in this league. Eclipsed 60 points twice in his 4 year NHL career. Suzuki has done better and I doubt you'd trade all that for Suzuki. Let's calm down a bit.
19 juill. 2022 à 11 h 46
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Quoting: Priyce
That is way too expensive for PLD even in normal circumstances. You are overvaluing him by way too much.

That's basically 4 x 1st RD picks in the 1st Rounders, Roy (would have been one this year) and Dvorak which costs a 1st.
Then there's Dadonov who can fetch a good amount at the TDL.

That's a massive haul for PLD, who, although young, still has yet to accomplish much of anything in this league. Eclipsed 60 points twice in his 4 year NHL career. Suzuki has done better and I doubt you'd trade all that for Suzuki. Let's calm down a bit.


Roy isn't a 1st round pick and Dvorak most certainly isn't a 1st round pick no matter what montreal past GM paid for him. AT his price point good luck getting even a 2nd for dvorak. Oh and that panther pick will be what 28-32? Also much closer to value to a 2nd round pick. Go online google draft pick value, prospect values do some research and just don't be a Homer for the team.

Lets actually look at the pieces and there value using GSAA;
Dubois if traded today likely signs a 8yr deal in montreal meaning his GSAA over that time is around 16.
Montreal 1st lets say it becomes the 5th OV worth around 8.2 GSAA
florida 1st lets say its the 28th OV is worth around 3.1 GSAA
Dvorak over the next 3 yrs of his contract is around 2.5 GSAA
Dadanov is a cap dump to make salary work 0 GSAA (feel free to take him out of the trade)
So Roy to make of the rest of the value has to be worth around 2.2 GVAA which is around the 39th OV pick

It really is about what Dubois is worth.
19 juill. 2022 à 12 h 3
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Roy isn't a 1st round pick and Dvorak most certainly isn't a 1st round pick no matter what montreal past GM paid for him. AT his price point good luck getting even a 2nd for dvorak. Oh and that panther pick will be what 28-32? Also much closer to value to a 2nd round pick. Go online google draft pick value, prospect values do some research and just don't be a Homer for the team.

Lets actually look at the pieces and there value using GSAA;
Dubois if traded today likely signs a 8yr deal in montreal meaning his GSAA over that time is around 16.
Montreal 1st lets say it becomes the 5th OV worth around 8.2 GSAA
florida 1st lets say its the 28th OV is worth around 3.1 GSAA
Dvorak over the next 3 yrs of his contract is around 2.5 GSAA
Dadanov is a cap dump to make salary work 0 GSAA (feel free to take him out of the trade)
So Roy to make of the rest of the value has to be worth around 2.2 GVAA which is around the 39th OV pick

It really is about what Dubois is worth.


There's one thing you are missing, is that Dubois trade value is current down the gutter. He did that himself. Montreal is also a rebuilding team, they are not going to give up 1st RD picks for someone they can wait 2 years to sign. Dubois has only hit the 60 points total twice in his career, yes he is young, but is a 2C realistically.

I'd rather give up a 2nd RD pick than giving up Roy. I don't expect you to know much about the Habs prospects however Roy can't be apart of this trade. Montreal's 1st RD pick either.
19 juill. 2022 à 12 h 10
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Quoting: Priyce
There's one thing you are missing, is that Dubois trade value is current down the gutter. He did that himself. Montreal is also a rebuilding team, they are not going to give up 1st RD picks for someone they can wait 2 years to sign. Dubois has only hit the 60 points total twice in his career, yes he is young, but is a 2C realistically.

I'd rather give up a 2nd RD pick than giving up Roy. I don't expect you to know much about the Habs prospects however Roy can't be apart of this trade. Montreal's 1st RD pick either.


I know Roy as a prospect really well. Hes a good prospect but not in anyway elite. And I think multiple independent people doing prospect work would agree on that. Listen I know every team over hypes their teams prospects so I would recommend going to see what some of the prospect models and scouts say about your teams prospects. And if montreal doesn't want to pay the price don't pay it. Go also know there is risk that he won't sign in Montreal and if he does it will likely be more far more money than they can sign him more right now. What Montreal should be doing it talking to Dubois and playing hard ball saying they will give him 8yrs and 7-7.5mil. If he wants montreal so bad show them by signing a team friendly deal giving montreal even more value to make the deal.
 
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