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Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 juin 2023 à 12 h 21
Sujet:
You know who
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WPGSK</b></div><div>Barron is a 2nd pairing D already. Also... below. Big strong RHD D. GOLD! Plus, he gets to play with his brother.
AGE:21
BIRTHPLACE: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
NATIONALITY: Canada
SHOOTS: Right
HEIGHT: 6'2"188cm
WEIGHT: 201 lbs91kg
Gally's contract isn't great, but he's gritty leader to show the young Jets how to play. Removing Wheeler and Schefele allows Gally to show young Jets how to play hard and gritty.</div></div>
i don't care about size at all and if that the first thing you go to it tell me hes not that good.
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Armchair-GM
14 juin 2023 à 12 h 48
Sujet:
You know who
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WPGSK</b></div><div>WPG says... DEAL. Barron is our target. Gallagher adds leadership and mentorship. Mesar and Norlinder are unproven, but should end up being regulars in the NHL.</div></div>
Why the **** would a 22 yr old dmen that has never shown to be anything more then a #4-6 dmen be the jets target? Oh and Gally has 27.5mil left on his contract why would they take that on?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 juin 2023 à 12 h 45
Sujet:
You know who
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>math731</b></div><div>Need to send money back. And considering nobody wants to sign with you guys, now youd get a local boy who could show the way to the Perfetti, Lambert, etc. And you could always put him on LTIR if he gets hurt which wouldnt surprise me tbh.</div></div>
Fun fact jets don't have to take money back and if they do the price goes up for dubois not down.
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Armchair-GM
30 mai 2023 à 10 h 59
Sujet:
Would mtl do this
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>1. Montreal isn't giving up 2 1sts + worth of value for PLD and an AHL lifer D man.
2. Mailloux is aging out of the OHL this years so he will at least be AHL bound and the NHL will have to allow for him to be called up if injuries happen, so at some point this next season he should be cleared to play.
3. Hoffman (retained) has positive value and even if you don't view him as having value he is a cheap buyout
4. Agree the most likely trade is Kidney, Dvo and the cats 1st</div></div>
Dear Hab fans... Jets don't have to take any money back in any PLD deal. Winnipeg isn't taking on Dvorak or hoffman etc. If you think those players have value go trade them and use the assets in a dubois trade.
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Armchair-GM
24 mai 2023 à 9 h 5
Sujet:
Middle-6 Scoring
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>newballcoach</b></div><div>Which he could waive of course, but that's interesting to me considering he's from Southern Ontario. I would have not assumed that.</div></div>
He was a wings fan growing up. Doesn't like the leafs.
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Armchair-GM
24 mai 2023 à 9 h 2
Sujet:
opening night - MTL LAV
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SKWPG</b></div><div>Ya, that's probably what the trade will end up being. Either Harris or Ridley.</div></div>
Why do people think winnipeg or any team really is taking Dvorak. He's a super expensive 3c at best. More than half the teams in the NHL run an internal budge including the jets they are not touching a player that makes almost 1.5mil more cash than his cap hit. It isn't happening and if Habs fans think he has value than trade him to a different team and use the pieces in a dubois trade. Just ****ing stop with the Dvorak ****.
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
24 mai 2023 à 8 h 57
Sujet:
Rumeur Anthony Mantha
Winnipeg would do that trade if you take out Anderson and throw in a 2nd or lesser prospect.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 mai 2023 à 8 h 55
Sujet:
Middle-6 Scoring
Rumor is Leafs are on Scheifele's no trade list.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
19 mai 2023 à 16 h 16
Sujet:
lets go
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SKWPG</b></div><div>Quite certain that no team other than VAN or DET considers those trades.
WPG wins the NJD trade, but only if Helly doesn't sign with NJD. If Helly signs LT, then NJD wins this trade.
WPG WINS the OTT trade.
WPG wins the AZ trade.
WPG = MTL trade. Still don't see MTL trading the #5 pick overall, but KFC is a top line winger / sniper, so maybe?
WPG WINS the FLA trade.
WPG = DET trade.
WPG = VAN trade.
Despite all those trades the WPG wins, you still don't have a very good roster. You have Perfetti as the #1 C and he's been hurt more than he's played or close to it. He's NO where near a #1 C. If healthy, maybe a top 6 / top 9 winger. Greig as your 2nd Center? Already? You have 2 kids as your top 2 Centers. No...</div></div>
So these trade valuations were done using GSAA. These trades are actually very equal in value. Factor in Money... Like every team knows Schmaltz has to be traded. Yotes aren't paying him the cash owning on that deal. Likely they only get a mid 1st for him. Vejmelka stats wise in an average NHL goalie. Knight hasn't even been that but hes still youngish but also missed a season and costs 4.5mil starting next year. Panthers can't carry 14.5mil in goalie cap hit. Oh and the sens deal... there is a much better chance none of those guys become as close to as good as Scheifele is. Dudes a PPG player and just scored 42 goals.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 mai 2023 à 11 h 20
Sujet:
Changing the face
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame</b></div><div>You're hoping he'll sign for 1 year in WIN for what? 4.5M? He's made it clear, he wants out of WIN and will probably use the arbitration which could potentially give him over 6.5/yr. 23-24 WIN has 16 signed players, a little less than 13M$ to spare, 5 RFAs, only 1 goalie signed and you think Chev will go all out and risk the future for a one year deal? They aren't picking top 15 either for this draft year.
I clearly indicated that he may get a 1st round pick, but in this AGM I'm going a different route and giving two 2nd rounders for prospect choice. Leskinen and Tierney are bottom prospect that can be be projects to develop for depth. Never said they were top 3 or top 2 liners..</div></div>
You think the jets have a cap problem? why? they don't at all. Pay Dubois 6.5mil, pay a back up around 750-900K leaves about 5-5.5 mil for 4 slots with will likely be for young guys playing on the bottom of the roster (cheap player). Jet end up with about millon in cap space all said and done and that's without any trades... No cap issue what so ever.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 avr. 2023 à 16 h 2
Sujet:
Dubois Value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Howie</b></div><div>Trading out Dubois when if we signed him to that 8-9m offer saves cap too. Hoffman would be an okay fit on the 2nd line lw and retain 2.25m at deadline to trade him for the best return and the cap is gone after next year. I get not wanting to take on cap but to get a better return taking on Hoffman is definitely not going to ruin it. Jets already have difficulty signing players and a pp guy like him could be useful.</div></div>
You aren't getting it. The jets will be firm on keeping salary capped at 70mil. They are already right around there without dubois. They will be looking to shed salary not bring in any. And Hoffman isn't good and doesn't fit the culture of TNSE. You keep saying the jets can get this or that for him... ownership will not care. 65-70mil that's it period. The only way the jets take on money with any Dubois deal (montreal or any other team) is if a young player is signed long term through his prime.
This isn't about what Montreal will or won't offer its how the jets will be conducting business during a rebuild/retool. Remember the team will expect less arena revenue during a rebuild/retool and TNSE are trying to buy a mall for 80mil plus renos.
Also Dubois won't sign a contract to play hockey in Winnipeg this summer. Only way he pays in Winnipeg is if jets take him to Arb and than likely he signs an offer sheet to counter.
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Armchair-GM
26 avr. 2023 à 15 h 45
Sujet:
Dubois Value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Howie</b></div><div>Hoffman has 1 year and can easily be retained on to get more for him as a rental. I don't see the issue of taking on cap for next year as no one is expiring this year that is that important besides barron and Samberg who are rfas
Edit: this is an issue with Dvorak as he is signed past the 2024 season so having him could affect keeping people for sure that's why I'd prefer Hoffman as well as get a better deal as Hoffman is a better player for mtl to move on from than Dvorak</div></div>
The jets are going to run an internal budget of around 65-70mil dollars. They aren't retaining ****. The only type of contracts jets will take on are contracts owning less money than cap hit hit. Jets had an internal budget this year its why they didn't spend to the cap. It will only get lower next season if entering a retool/rebuild.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 avr. 2023 à 15 h 44
Sujet:
Dubois Value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Howie</b></div><div>Hoffman has 1 year and can easily be retained on to get more for him as a rental. I don't see the issue of taking on cap for next year as no one is expiring this year that is that important besides barron and Samberg who are rfas
Edit: this is an issue with Dvorak as he is signed past the 2024 season so having him could affect keeping people for sure that's why I'd prefer Hoffman as well as get a better deal as Hoffman is a better player for mtl to move on from than Dvorak</div></div>
The jets are going to run an internal budget of around 65-70mil dollars. They aren't retaining ****. The only type of contracts jets will take on are contracts owning less money than cap hit hit. Jets had an internal budget this year its why they didn't spend to the cap. It will only get lower next season if entering a retool/rebuild.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 avr. 2023 à 9 h 24
Sujet:
Dubois Value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Howie</b></div><div>Jets don't need any lhd in the ahl tho as kuzmin will be there next year and really takes away any need for Norlinder. Like someone said you can always play mesar center so thats and option or sign on of the prospects like Davidson, kapanen, etc. You got to think that if the habs select Smith the center issue is less even tho their not in laval you lose 2 but gain 1 and that's not counting additional trades or picks in the 2023 draft.</div></div>
There is only 3 guys on the Habs roster jets would take back as cap... Dach, Evans or Edmundson if the trade happens after july 1 so his signing bonus is paid. Maybe Hoffman is Montreal retains 15%. That's it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 avr. 2023 à 9 h 14
Sujet:
Dubois Value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Howie</b></div><div>Yeah I completely agree I see them as interchangeable for whoever mtl wants out more. Not like I'm fixated on Dvorak. Both make a bit much for what they provide. Dvorak is definitely better but cap for longer and injured. 1st mesar Hoffman and a 3rd should get it done.</div></div>
Dear people winnipeg isn't taking back money. If they do go the route of retool/rebuild they will be running an internal budget. No way Dvorak and his over 11 mil dollars is someone the jets take on. Same with Anderson, Armia. None of these higher cash, lower cap hit deals will interest winnipeg at all.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 avr. 2023 à 15 h 22
Sujet:
Just toying with some ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>You were to drunk earlier to comprehend reality and it showed in your responses to the thread!</div></div>
Once out of the top 10 draft value from like 11-21 really isn't a large gap at all. Lots of stuff written on this. Also jets will care for more about cash on contract not cap so I doubt they have much interest in Montreal players who seen to all have more cash being paid out than cap hit next two seasons. And if you want to know about why the jets care about the cash... Their parent company is moving in on a 70-80 mil dollar real estate deal and will need millions more to upgrade that real estate.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
23 avr. 2023 à 15 h 11
Sujet:
Hashing out a Dubois trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Howie</b></div><div>Yeah and it works for the jets as well which is the best part. Sure I understand there can be some hesitancy but but ultimately I feel like this deal works for both teams involved even tho both probably want a better deal</div></div>
Just make it dubois for the 1st and Engstrom nothing all the other pieces is just garbage to complicate the deal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 avr. 2023 à 16 h 20
Sujet:
More Score Michigan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JoeROFLCOPTER</b></div><div>He's fine lol with pressure. He looked real good in the pre-season and had a <em>down year</em> since the coaching staff in GR were abhorrent. As for skating, this is the key to knowing you are just throwing **** out. SHL regulation rinks are bigger than the NHL's and, as such, skating is a much bigger component in the SHL than NHL.
Since you suggested reading up on eliteprospect's reports, you should take your own advice and read up on Johansson's reports that praise his mobility.</div></div>
Lets read something that's outdated we should do that.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 avr. 2023 à 16 h 18
Sujet:
More Score Michigan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JoeROFLCOPTER</b></div><div>What my man waffling about lol</div></div>
I watched him alive twice in feb. He had trouble with the moose speed a team that is not fast. His first pass wasn't great and he wanted to defer to his partner. There was a 20 and 21 yr old dmen in both games that were much better than he was and I don't think either of them are slam dunk top 4 dmen. Edvisson like could become a #3-4 type but heinola the other young dmen in the game likely won't and hes miles better than than Johansson.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
18 avr. 2023 à 16 h 6
Sujet:
More Score Michigan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JoeROFLCOPTER</b></div><div>Oh! He doesn't know anything about Johansson guys. That explains it.</div></div>
I know a ton watched him play a bunch of AHL games where he in fact struggled with NHL style defending and at times really struggled with north American style of play which is far more skating and pressure than in sweden.
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Armchair-GM
18 avr. 2023 à 16 h 3
Sujet:
More Score Michigan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JoeROFLCOPTER</b></div><div>Still, ~ 1PPG is nothing to shun at. Hence why you're getting two firsts (one being 18OA in '23), a decent underutilized rookie, and a B-rated defensive prospect.</div></div>
DO we need a talk on draft picks and value... after the top ten draft pick value drops a lot. After top 15 they are far closer in value to 2nd round picks. Oh and on top of it all while many people are yelling about how deep this draft if it is extremely top heavy and gets watered down around pick 12-14. If you don't believe me I would recommend reading Elite Prospects they are the best in the game with NHL prospects.
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Armchair-GM
18 avr. 2023 à 15 h 59
Sujet:
More Score Michigan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Beef_Eagle</b></div><div>A 15 goal rookie + a future top 4 D + two 1rounders IS paying up</div></div>
a 22 yr old dmen only scoring at .28ppg pace in the NHL is far from a future top 4 dmen. The other is a soon to be 23 year old with a pile of pro experience he's at best a middle 6 forward likely more 3rd line player. These are players not hard to find.
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Armchair-GM
18 avr. 2023 à 15 h 35
Sujet:
More Score Michigan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JoeROFLCOPTER</b></div><div>Woah 4x 30 goal scorer! Give up an A+ prospect and add for him!
goof ass.</div></div>
The player that is 6th in goals and 14 in points over the last 4 seasons. Signed for years. Pay up.
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Armchair-GM
14 avr. 2023 à 16 h 14
Sujet:
Golf Leafs Golf
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Koskinen_The_Great</b></div><div>Mostly, cause I get a kick out of fans overanalyzing the most insignificant assets of a trade. Heineman has a much better potential that fits the jets on the wing</div></div>
Montreal fans please listen... The jets aren't talking anyone back that will be making far for cash in the next 2 yrs when their cap hit. The jets will not be paying Dvorak 11.5mil dollars in cash the next 2 season. Full stop not happening.
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Armchair-GM
22 mars 2023 à 16 h 54
Sujet:
Trading off summer time
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ricochetii</b></div><div>That's close minded. If Hoffman brings back a 2nd or 3rd and it only costs Winnipeg $1.125M to get that pick, any team with the cap space would jump on that. The going rate for that amount of retention is a 4th/5th and there's always a taker for those deals as well.
It's silly to reject added value because you don't like/need a player if he's not even meant to play for your team. This is like Montreal saying, "hey, we'll give you a 2nd(or 3rd) to retain ~$1M as a middle man in a trade". No GM is turning that down if they have $1M in cap space.
Now if you don't think Hoffman has more value than a 4th $1.125M, that's a different argument.</div></div>
So all montreal fans know it on here... The jets will not take money back in a PLD deal unless its a player they want long term and whos cap hit is close to their cash value. Jets parent company is trying to close a huge real estate and the jets will operate on an internal budget. The jets also won't want to retain on any players to try to get draft picks. Just a little research into the jets and you could come up with actual trades that could make sense.
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