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Forum: Armchair-GM19 mai à 16 h 16
Sujet: lets go
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SKWPG</b></div><div>Quite certain that no team other than VAN or DET considers those trades.

WPG wins the NJD trade, but only if Helly doesn't sign with NJD. If Helly signs LT, then NJD wins this trade.
WPG WINS the OTT trade.
WPG wins the AZ trade.
WPG = MTL trade. Still don't see MTL trading the #5 pick overall, but KFC is a top line winger / sniper, so maybe?
WPG WINS the FLA trade.
WPG = DET trade.
WPG = VAN trade.

Despite all those trades the WPG wins, you still don't have a very good roster. You have Perfetti as the #1 C and he's been hurt more than he's played or close to it. He's NO where near a #1 C. If healthy, maybe a top 6 / top 9 winger. Greig as your 2nd Center? Already? You have 2 kids as your top 2 Centers. No...</div></div>

So these trade valuations were done using GSAA. These trades are actually very equal in value. Factor in Money... Like every team knows Schmaltz has to be traded. Yotes aren't paying him the cash owning on that deal. Likely they only get a mid 1st for him. Vejmelka stats wise in an average NHL goalie. Knight hasn't even been that but hes still youngish but also missed a season and costs 4.5mil starting next year. Panthers can't carry 14.5mil in goalie cap hit. Oh and the sens deal... there is a much better chance none of those guys become as close to as good as Scheifele is. Dudes a PPG player and just scored 42 goals.
Forum: Armchair-GM9 mai à 11 h 20
Sujet: Changing the face
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame</b></div><div>You're hoping he'll sign for 1 year in WIN for what? 4.5M? He's made it clear, he wants out of WIN and will probably use the arbitration which could potentially give him over 6.5/yr. 23-24 WIN has 16 signed players, a little less than 13M$ to spare, 5 RFAs, only 1 goalie signed and you think Chev will go all out and risk the future for a one year deal? They aren't picking top 15 either for this draft year.

I clearly indicated that he may get a 1st round pick, but in this AGM I'm going a different route and giving two 2nd rounders for prospect choice. Leskinen and Tierney are bottom prospect that can be be projects to develop for depth. Never said they were top 3 or top 2 liners..</div></div>

You think the jets have a cap problem? why? they don't at all. Pay Dubois 6.5mil, pay a back up around 750-900K leaves about 5-5.5 mil for 4 slots with will likely be for young guys playing on the bottom of the roster (cheap player). Jet end up with about millon in cap space all said and done and that's without any trades... No cap issue what so ever.
Forum: Armchair-GM26 avr. à 16 h 2
Sujet: Dubois Value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Howie</b></div><div>Trading out Dubois when if we signed him to that 8-9m offer saves cap too. Hoffman would be an okay fit on the 2nd line lw and retain 2.25m at deadline to trade him for the best return and the cap is gone after next year. I get not wanting to take on cap but to get a better return taking on Hoffman is definitely not going to ruin it. Jets already have difficulty signing players and a pp guy like him could be useful.</div></div>

You aren't getting it. The jets will be firm on keeping salary capped at 70mil. They are already right around there without dubois. They will be looking to shed salary not bring in any. And Hoffman isn't good and doesn't fit the culture of TNSE. You keep saying the jets can get this or that for him... ownership will not care. 65-70mil that's it period. The only way the jets take on money with any Dubois deal (montreal or any other team) is if a young player is signed long term through his prime.


This isn't about what Montreal will or won't offer its how the jets will be conducting business during a rebuild/retool. Remember the team will expect less arena revenue during a rebuild/retool and TNSE are trying to buy a mall for 80mil plus renos.

Also Dubois won't sign a contract to play hockey in Winnipeg this summer. Only way he pays in Winnipeg is if jets take him to Arb and than likely he signs an offer sheet to counter.
Forum: Armchair-GM26 avr. à 15 h 45
Sujet: Dubois Value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Howie</b></div><div>Hoffman has 1 year and can easily be retained on to get more for him as a rental. I don't see the issue of taking on cap for next year as no one is expiring this year that is that important besides barron and Samberg who are rfas

Edit: this is an issue with Dvorak as he is signed past the 2024 season so having him could affect keeping people for sure that's why I'd prefer Hoffman as well as get a better deal as Hoffman is a better player for mtl to move on from than Dvorak</div></div>

The jets are going to run an internal budget of around 65-70mil dollars. They aren't retaining ****. The only type of contracts jets will take on are contracts owning less money than cap hit hit. Jets had an internal budget this year its why they didn't spend to the cap. It will only get lower next season if entering a retool/rebuild.
Forum: Armchair-GM26 avr. à 15 h 44
Sujet: Dubois Value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Howie</b></div><div>Hoffman has 1 year and can easily be retained on to get more for him as a rental. I don't see the issue of taking on cap for next year as no one is expiring this year that is that important besides barron and Samberg who are rfas

Edit: this is an issue with Dvorak as he is signed past the 2024 season so having him could affect keeping people for sure that's why I'd prefer Hoffman as well as get a better deal as Hoffman is a better player for mtl to move on from than Dvorak</div></div>

The jets are going to run an internal budget of around 65-70mil dollars. They aren't retaining ****. The only type of contracts jets will take on are contracts owning less money than cap hit hit. Jets had an internal budget this year its why they didn't spend to the cap. It will only get lower next season if entering a retool/rebuild.
Forum: Armchair-GM22 mars à 16 h 54
Sujet: Trading off summer time
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ricochetii</b></div><div>That's close minded. If Hoffman brings back a 2nd or 3rd and it only costs Winnipeg $1.125M to get that pick, any team with the cap space would jump on that. The going rate for that amount of retention is a 4th/5th and there's always a taker for those deals as well.

It's silly to reject added value because you don't like/need a player if he's not even meant to play for your team. This is like Montreal saying, "hey, we'll give you a 2nd(or 3rd) to retain ~$1M as a middle man in a trade". No GM is turning that down if they have $1M in cap space.

Now if you don't think Hoffman has more value than a 4th $1.125M, that's a different argument.</div></div>

So all montreal fans know it on here... The jets will not take money back in a PLD deal unless its a player they want long term and whos cap hit is close to their cash value. Jets parent company is trying to close a huge real estate and the jets will operate on an internal budget. The jets also won't want to retain on any players to try to get draft picks. Just a little research into the jets and you could come up with actual trades that could make sense.