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Sakic should trade for Patrick Kane

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Équipe: 2022-23 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 8 juill. 2022
Publié: 8 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
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  1. Kane, Patrick (5 250 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (CHI)
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  1. Bowers, Shane [Droits de RFA]
  2. Girard, Samuel
  3. Kaut, Martin
  4. Ranta, Sampo
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
  6. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (COL)
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8 juill. 2022 à 10 h 36
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they absolutely should not,.
Kane is not a need or want for the avs
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8 juill. 2022 à 10 h 38
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Imagine them getting Kane lol, they would be to good for the league #globetrotters
8 juill. 2022 à 10 h 41
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Quoting: coga16
they absolutely should not,.
Kane is not a need or want for the avs


Let alone for Girard + 1st and more
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8 juill. 2022 à 10 h 42
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Girard probably lands Kane retained and the hawks paying a 2nd team to retain another percentage
8 juill. 2022 à 11 h 29
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Girard probably lands Kane retained and the hawks paying a 2nd team to retain another percentage


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Let alone for Girard + 1st and more


Right Idea wrong player, it was mentioned on Sportsnet this morning that the Avs are looking into Toews as a replacement for Kadri, not Kane.

Girard and a 3rd would probably get this done with retention. But after the first round are the Hawks still looking for D now?
8 juill. 2022 à 11 h 31
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Right Idea wrong player, it was mentioned on Sportsnet this morning that the Avs are looking into Toews as a replacement for Kadri, not Kane.

Girard and a 3rd would probably get this done with retention. But after the first round are the Hawks still looking for D now?


Still wouldn't do it. I don't care how bad the Hawks were last year, the guy had 37 points...that doesn't get you a top-4 defenseman AND a pick in return.
8 juill. 2022 à 11 h 36
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Still wouldn't do it. I don't care how bad the Hawks were last year, the guy had 37 points...that doesn't get you a top-4 defenseman AND a pick in return.


I hear you, just posting what I heard on Sportsnet. I can see though that we would be more for his Defensive play and PK than scoring. The cost is for the retention, which the Avs would probably ask for more than half, so +5 mill of cap space has a very high price. We saw Kassian and MArsek contracts which are less than 5 mill cost a first each.
8 juill. 2022 à 11 h 43
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Right Idea wrong player, it was mentioned on Sportsnet this morning that the Avs are looking into Toews as a replacement for Kadri, not Kane.

Girard and a 3rd would probably get this done with retention. But after the first round are the Hawks still looking for D now?


Toews would be a good 2 or 3C. But not worth Girard. Maybe a 2nd and 3rd with retention
8 juill. 2022 à 11 h 45
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I hear you, just posting what I heard on Sportsnet. I can see though that we would be more for his Defensive play and PK than scoring. The cost is for the retention, which the Avs would probably ask for more than half, so +5 mill of cap space has a very high price. We saw Kassian and MArsek contracts which are less than 5 mill cost a first each.


Why trade for Toews when you can sign Trocheck or Ryan Strome? Saves you a 1st and you probably pay each of those guys around $5m
8 juill. 2022 à 11 h 50
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Toews would be a good 2 or 3C. But not worth Girard. Maybe a 2nd and 3rd with retention


Kassian - 3.2 mill cost a first
marzek - 3.8 mill cost a first

I agree with you on the value of the player and the picks, but the market is very high right now for eating cap space. Given the trades yesterday I don't see how the hawks retain 5 mill or more without an asset that equals a 1st rounder coming back.

I can see Girard being valued more than a 1st in your mind, but something else has to be coming back and I don't think a 2nd and 3rd is enough value.
8 juill. 2022 à 11 h 52
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Quoting: Foppa21
Why trade for Toews when you can sign Trocheck or Ryan Strome? Saves you a 1st and you probably pay each of those guys around $5m


Strome would also be a decent replacement for Kadri and likely the cost to sign him is still manageable in the Avs cap situation, so yes I would agree with that. I would say Toews still has better Defensive and PK skills than Strome does. IT really is all about how you want to structure your team and what else is leaving/coming in with the Avs RFA's and UFA's.
8 juill. 2022 à 12 h 0
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Strome would also be a decent replacement for Kadri and likely the cost to sign him is still manageable in the Avs cap situation, so yes I would agree with that. I would say Toews still has better Defensive and PK skills than Strome does. IT really is all about how you want to structure your team and what else is leaving/coming in with the Avs RFA's and UFA's.


Priority will be leaving room for the Mack extension, keeping the d-corps together, and signing Nichushkin/Lehkonen. We ideally sign another 2C for 3-4 years x ~$5m who can supplement some of what Kadri provided on offense last year. Beyond that, our PK was dynamite in the playoffs and the Avs are unmatched at 5v5, so I don't see a need to trade for Toews
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8 juill. 2022 à 12 h 2
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Kassian - 3.2 mill cost a first
marzek - 3.8 mill cost a first

I agree with you on the value of the player and the picks, but the market is very high right now for eating cap space. Given the trades yesterday I don't see how the hawks retain 5 mill or more without an asset that equals a 1st rounder coming back.

I can see Girard being valued more than a 1st in your mind, but something else has to be coming back and I don't think a 2nd and 3rd is enough value.

They clear cap, Hawks a rebuilding, they are moving the overpaid player. Toews at his current contract is negative value, they need to make him worth a return
 
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