I think he would go for Campbell, not Ryan Strome though especially if you have Pius Suter as a 3m 4C. The term probably doesn't help either. With Larkin and Bertuzzi's fit on the team in terms of timeline of the future core, I don't think Strome would fit in unless it was Dylan. Adding Garland to this team makes it look like the core should be made of players ~26 in age.

Raymond, Seider, Edvinsson, Cossa 19-21 there is no need to rush Cossa, so having Ned (26) and Campbell (30) under contract for the next 4 years wouldn't be a bad idea. If Cossa does play in 2023-24 his ELC will end at the same time at the earliest.

Zadina (~23) and Veleno (22) fit well in age with that core, perhaps Zadina can be exchanged for a prospect of similar age or 2022/23 picks.

The "Vets":
Larkin 25, Vrana 26, Fabbri 26,Suter 26, Bertuzzi 27

Other pieces: Lindstrom 23, Hronek 24

Might make sense to move on from Bertuzzi (via trade) or Suter (own rental if he isn't too good to lose) rather than add guys their age to the top 6 with term. The average age is 25.5 atm but drops to 23.1 without the guys with 1 year on their contract. Your squad has an average age of 25.9.

nothing is really too eye popping with Plandowski, Don't think the Canucks accept

Try the 8th overall pick for garland and maybe a 4th

Garland is gonna cost a lot more than that

Drop the retention and the Canes consider.

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now this ridiculous lol Garland isn't even close to being worth 8OA

van gave up 7OA+ 3 cap dumps for Garland+ OEL( 12% retention for 6 years)

Garland alone gets maybe 15OA or a late 1st+ B tier prospect

I doubt Detroit does that and honestly zadina isn’t a good fit for Canes. Don’t need a reclamation project, need a proven goal scorer.

It was 9th overall and garland was without a contract at the time, now he’s locked in long term under 5m a year. For a top 6 forward at under 5m a year it definitely costs a 1st somewhere between 8-12

ya no it doesnt. in that case then i want 12OA for derbusk the guy had 27 points in his last 35 games and outside of last season was consistently on pace for 48+ points

You’re delusional, debrusk is not even remotely on garlands level and he’s not locked up long term on his contract but good try

no you are delusional thinking garland can get a top 10 pick.

you canucks fan are absolutely ridiculous with how much you overvalue garland, miller, boeser no one is gonna give up those ridiculous prices and i cant wait to see how disappointed you guys are when you get half the return you numb skulls think you will get. Ever since Boston clapped you guys in 2011, canucks have been a poverty franchise and always will be

No, Garland will still fetch a 1st in the 6-10 range by itself

VAN also gave up the 9OA in that trade with Arizona, not the 7OA, can't believe you got that wrong. You're reading Garland's valuation all wrong

whatever you say lol ill laugh when he gets traded for less. you do realize most top 10 picks have all star level potential and garland is nothing more then a solid 2nd liner.

2021 to 2015 draft from 6-10 OA

2021: Edvinsson/ Eklund/ Clarke/Guenther/Boucher
2020: Drysdale/ Holtz/ Quinn/ Rossi/ Perfetti
2019: Seider/ Cozens/ Broberg/ Zegras/ Podkolzin
2018: Zadina/ Hughes/ Boqvist/ Kravstov/ Bouchard
2017: Glass/ Andersson/ Middlestadt/ Rasmussen/ Tippet
2016: Tkachuck/ Keller/ A. Nylander/ Sergachev/ Jost
2015: Zacha/ Provorov/ Werenski/ Meier/ Rantanen

of all these guys the only ones i believe garland has more value then is
Boucher/ Zadina/ Kravstov/ Glass/ Andersson/ Middlestadt/ Rasmussen/ Tippett/ Jost/ A. Nylander/ Zacha

so thats 11 out of 35 guys garland is more valuable then so that's is still a pretty bad risk for a team to take giving up a 6-10OA pick
of these picks
17 of the 35 guys have the potential or are already guys who would be a top 5 player on a cup winning team, these guys are.
Edvinsson/ Drsydale/ Quinn/ Eklund/ Clarke/ Guenther/ Holtz/ Rossi/ Perfetti/ Seider/ Zegras/ Hughes/ Bouchard/ Tkachuk/ Werenski/ Meier/ Rantanen.

so basically teams have a 88.6% chance of drafting a player who will be a consistent roster spot holder a 68.6% chance of selecting a top 6 forward / top 4 dman and a 48.6% chance of drafting a future all star/ superstar.

if you are in those teams position of being a rebuilding team do you move a 6-10OA pick for a 25yr old 2nd liner and risk the chance of potentially passing up on the next Rantanen/Seider/ Tkachuck/ Zegras/ Hughes/ Meier/ Werenski?

Arizona is already winning this deal slightly as they took low term cap dumps that helped them reach the cap floor and drafted Guenther who is looking to be a future top 15 goal scorer in the NHL and they cleared most of OEL horrendous long term contract and Van is already looking to move OEL and Garland. This trade is already becoming even in most peoples eyes and as time passes by this trade will look terrible on Van's part as they most likely will need to retain to move OEL and won't get much value for him and garland won't return anyone with Guenther's talent and potential.

Guenther isn't a sure fire thing until he makes it to the NHL, don't count your chickens before they hatch

Canucks aren't actively trying to move Garland, and they'll get really strong value for him. You overlook the fact that practically all of his points are even strength points, it's not like he relies on the powerplay to produce offensively. If the Canucks moved Garland for a single draft pick, it would be for a pick in the 6-10 range. OEL is still a good player even though the contract is inefficient. Benning didn't overpay in that trade

You are still reading that trade wrong

i just want to point out Fiala just got traded for 19OA + Faber.
yes fiala was needed to be moved due to cap reasons. But he was an RFA so usually you get full value for RFA rights.

but Fiala also is a much better player then garland and gets a lot of his points from 5v5 aswell. He also carried Minnesota's 3rd line for mulitple years and put up .8 ppg numbers.

that trade right there ruined any shot Van gets a 6-10 OA pick for garland.

you have remember team needs and team direction most teams with 10OA+ picks aren't looking to compete yet so garland isn't gonna help them continue to either tank or let younger guys get opportunites.
also of the teams with 6-10OA picks it is

6OA- Columbus. columbus is in no need of RWs they have Laine, voracek, nyquist, Bjorkstrand, Chinakov and Marchenko
7OA- Ottawa. Ottawa is in need of RW's but again i do not think garland is worth 7OA when guys like Kemmel/ Savoie/ Lekkerimaki are available and have a much higher potential, also again Ottawa just isn't reading to compete yet
8OA- Detroit. Detroit has the smartest GM in the league in Yzerman no shot he moves 8OA for Garland he is so good at his job he could finesse him for a 2nd probably also Detroit also has a core of young RWs they are trying to develop in Raymond/Zadina/Berggren/ Soderblom they are in no rush
9OA- Buffalo. has no need for RWs Tuch/Quinn are better or have higher potential then garland and then Peterka/Rosen are also very promising guys
10OA- Anaheim. Anaheim has no need also for RWs they have Terry/ Perrault and Pastujov also looks promising

all these teams don't need garland and the Wingers available at 6-10OA just have much higher potentials then what garland offers.

i could see him pulling a 13-16OA pick maybe a B tier prospect aswell but Fiala ruined any chance of Garland getting a 10OA+ pick

another thing is Ottawa was in talks of moving 7OA+ for wingers like Fiala/Bratt/Debricat/ Pastrnak those wingers are miles better then Garland. Debricat and Pastrnak are 2 of the top 10 goal scorers in the league and fiala and Bratt are all stars who will most likely produce at a 70+ point rate for quite a while

Those players aren't miles better than Garland, they're all marginally better than him. Even if the market for wingers isn't what it once was, Garland isn't going to be traded for less than 1. a mid 1st + a B-prospect, or 2. a 2nd + an A-prospect

Yes, all those players are better than Garland, but you do realize that top 10 picks still aren't guarantee's don't you?

did you read my last message i literally showed you how those the 6-10OA picks turned out over the last 7 years outside of the Busts of 2017, nearly all the guys turned out to be better then garland or a showing the potential to be

Still, the fact that draft picks in those ranges aren't guarantee's of any particular talent level tells me that one could find any caliber player in that range. Perhaps a star caliber player is most likely, but that's still just fractional probability