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Oilers next year

Créé par: datmonkey91
Date de création initiale: 11 juin 2022
Publié: 11 juin 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
McLeod, Ryan21 950 000 $
Puljujärvi, Jesse12 950 000 $
Yamamoto, Kailer53 650 000 $
Roy, Nicolas43 000 000 $
Benson, Tyler1800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Kulak, Brett42 500 000 $
Malone, Brad1775 000 $
Marody, Cooper2800 000 $
Husso, Ville34 150 000 $
Eakin, Cody11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. 2024 5e round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Kassian, Zack (750 000 $ retained)
2.
EDM
  1. 2022 2e round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Barrie, Tyson
  2. 2022 5e round pick (EDM)
3.
EDM
    ARI
    1. Klefbom, Oscar
    2. 2022 7e round pick (EDM)
    4.
    EDM
    1. Mayfield, Scott
    2. 2024 6e round pick (NYI)
    NYI
    1. Foegele, Warren
    2. 2024 2e round pick (EDM)
    5.
    EDM
    1. Roy, Nicolas [Droits de RFA]
    VGK
    1. 2022 2e round pick (DAL)
    2. 2024 5e round pick (EDM)
    Rachats de contrats
    • James Neal: 1 916 667 $
    • Andrej Sekera: 1 500 000 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Zack Kassian: 750 000 $ (23.44%)
    • Milan Lucic: 750 000 $ (13%)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
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    2024
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2282 500 000 $82 427 795 $896 000 $2 200 000 $72 205 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    Hyman, Zach
    5 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
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    McDavid, Connor
    12 500 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    Puljujärvi, Jesse
    2 950 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
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    Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
    5 125 000 $
    AG, C
    NMC
    UFA - 7
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    Draisaitl, Leon
    8 500 000 $
    C, AG
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 3
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    Yamamoto, Kailer
    3 650 000 $
    AD, C
    RFA - 2
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    Holloway, Dylan
    925 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    RFA - 2
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    McLeod, Ryan
    1 950 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
    Roy, Nicolas
    3 000 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 5
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    Benson, Tyler
    800 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    Eakin, Cody
    1 000 000 $
    C
    UFA
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    Ryan, Derek
    1 250 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    Nurse, Darnell
    9 250 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 8
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    Ceci, Cody
    3 250 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    Husso, Ville
    4 150 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 3
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    Kulak, Brett
    2 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 4
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    Bouchard, Evan
    863 333 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
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    Skinner, Stuart
    750 000 $
    G
    RFA - 1
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    Keith, Duncan
    5 538 462 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 1
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    Mayfield, Scott
    1 450 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    Shore, Devin
    850 000 $
    AG, C, AD
    UFA - 1
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    Smith, Mike
    2 200 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
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    Broberg, Philip
    863 333 $
    DG
    RFA - 2

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    11 juin à 16 h 11
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    Seems like a lot for mayfield? And that leaves no spot for Broberg. Also eakin is trash. We can build a better 4th line than that
    11 juin à 16 h 15
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    kassian is a blockhead with negative value who the sens don’t want anyway
    11 juin à 16 h 21
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    Quoting: smokewiseganja
    Seems like a lot for mayfield? And that leaves no spot for Broberg. Also eakin is trash. We can build a better 4th line than that


    Mayfield is pretty solid from the back end. Kind of similar to Ceci I think, and if they're playing Keith, they need a good dman paired with him. That's also why I don't have Broberg playing as the the left side is already filled up but I assume there'll be injuries throughout the year so he'll get good playing time anyway.

    The 4th line is in the air for me, I don't know who to put there with the limited cap space they have. So it's not ideal but something like that is probable.
    11 juin à 16 h 22
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    Quoting: Alfie11
    kassian is a blockhead with negative value who the sens don’t want anyway


    I agree with you, but the sens have had interest in him for the past year, and DJ smith likes him so it's not a far fetched move to me
    11 juin à 16 h 23
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    Quoting: datmonkey91
    Mayfield is pretty solid from the back end. Kind of similar to Ceci I think, and if they're playing Keith, they need a good dman paired with him. That's also why I don't have Broberg playing as the the left side is already filled up but I assume there'll be injuries throughout the year so he'll get good playing time anyway.

    The 4th line is in the air for me, I don't know who to put there with the limited cap space they have. So it's not ideal but something like that is probable.


    Comparing Mayfield to Ceci is like comparing a Lambo to a Prius. Smh
    11 juin à 16 h 23
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    Comparing Mayfield to Ceci is like comparing a Lambo to a Prius. Smh


    Which one is which?
    11 juin à 16 h 23
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    Quoting: smokewiseganja
    Seems like a lot for mayfield? And that leaves no spot for Broberg. Also eakin is trash. We can build a better 4th line than that


    Too little for Mayfield lol
    11 juin à 16 h 24
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    Quoting: datmonkey91
    Which one is which?


    Honestly feel like that one is pretty obvious.
    11 juin à 16 h 26
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    Too little for Mayfield lol


    You got Pulock and Dobson playing in your top 4, that leaves mayfield with bottom pairing minutes and little special teams time. It's in the best interest for the isles to trade him before his contract is up. They get a pick which will help them with their weak prospect pool and a player who can play right now. I've only seen isles fans say Mayfield is worth more so I'm gonna assume it's a fair deal.
    smokewiseganja a aimé ceci.
    11 juin à 16 h 26
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    Mayfield offer is a hard no for isles. Ottawa isn’t trading anything for Kassian. Klefbom deal is back loaded so moving it depends on if the deal is insured or not.
    11 juin à 16 h 27
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    Quoting: datmonkey91
    You got Pulock and Dobson playing in your top 4, that leaves mayfield with bottom pairing minutes and little special teams time. It's in the best interest for the isles to trade him before his contract is up. They get a pick which will help them with their weak prospect pool and a player who can play right now. I've only seen isles fans say Mayfield is worth more so I'm gonna assume it's a fair deal.


    It’s not remotely fair lol. Isles have no need for Foegele.
    11 juin à 16 h 28
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    Quoting: datmonkey91
    You got Pulock and Dobson playing in your top 4, that leaves mayfield with bottom pairing minutes and little special teams time. It's in the best interest for the isles to trade him before his contract is up. They get a pick which will help them with their weak prospect pool and a player who can play right now. I've only seen isles fans say Mayfield is worth more so I'm gonna assume it's a fair deal.


    At minimum Mayfield costs what John Manson did. Offering Foegele and a 2024 second ain’t gonna cut it.
    11 juin à 16 h 29
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    Quoting: datmonkey91
    You got Pulock and Dobson playing in your top 4, that leaves mayfield with bottom pairing minutes and little special teams time. It's in the best interest for the isles to trade him before his contract is up. They get a pick which will help them with their weak prospect pool and a player who can play right now. I've only seen isles fans say Mayfield is worth more so I'm gonna assume it's a fair deal.


    It’s almost like the fans who watch him the most know his value… 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
    11 juin à 16 h 36
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    I actually think you could get as much as a 2nd rounder for Kassian if you're willing to eat 1-1.2 million of his deal. Someone like Pittsburgh could want him for his size.
    11 juin à 16 h 38
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    TKACHUKS and KASSIANS don't mix. No chance Ottawa does this. If you've heard otherwise you've heard wrong.
    11 juin à 16 h 40
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    Mayfield offer is a hard no for isles. Ottawa isn’t trading anything for Kassian. Klefbom deal is back loaded so moving it depends on if the deal is insured or not.


    OTT has been interested in Kassian for a while, even though I also think it's a bad trade for them, we've seen worse trades happen before. Klefbom likely isn't playing again so just an LTIR contract for them.

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    It’s not remotely fair lol. Isles have no need for Foegele.


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    At minimum Mayfield costs what John Manson did. Offering Foegele and a 2024 second ain’t gonna cut it.


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    It’s almost like the fans who watch him the most know his value… 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️


    Manson deal was a 2nd and a decent prospect. Mayfield deal is a 2nd and an NHL player. The values seem very similar to me. There is no team that'll offer more than that for a guy who is playing bottom pairing minutes on a non playoff team. Just because you're not winning the trade doesn't make it unfair, the isles get value back for 3rd pairing guy who is likely to walk after this season anyway. And as for the fans who watch him, they're fans for a reason, fans typically overvalue their players (look at any MTL armchair), if a fan of neither of these teams looked at the deal I would beleive they'd think it's even.
    11 juin à 16 h 42
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    I actually think you could get as much as a 2nd rounder for Kassian if you're willing to eat 1-1.2 million of his deal. Someone like Pittsburgh could want him for his size.


    Not sure if Pittsburgh has the cap to fit him even with the retention but I don't think the value goes much higher than the 5th even if they retain 1-1.2 mil.
    11 juin à 16 h 43
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    Quoting: TCMonkey
    TKACHUKS and KASSIANS don't mix. No chance Ottawa does this. If you've heard otherwise you've heard wrong.


    You're likely that Ottawa doesn't do it but a team out there is gonna do it just because they think toughness is the answer.
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    Quoting: datmonkey91
    OTT has been interested in Kassian for a while, even though I also think it's a bad trade for them, we've seen worse trades happen before. Klefbom likely isn't playing again so just an LTIR contract for them.







    Manson deal was a 2nd and a decent prospect. Mayfield deal is a 2nd and an NHL player. The values seem very similar to me. There is no team that'll offer more than that for a guy who is playing bottom pairing minutes on a non playoff team. Just because you're not winning the trade doesn't make it unfair, the isles get value back for 3rd pairing guy who is likely to walk after this season anyway. And as for the fans who watch him, they're fans for a reason, fans typically overvalue their players (look at any MTL armchair), if a fan of neither of these teams looked at the deal I would beleive they'd think it's even.


    Foegele doesn’t make sense for NYI tho. The prospect Anaheim got was Hellesson. There is a big difference here.
    11 juin à 16 h 59
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    Quoting: datmonkey91
    OTT has been interested in Kassian for a while, even though I also think it's a bad trade for them, we've seen worse trades happen before. Klefbom likely isn't playing again so just an LTIR contract for them.







    Manson deal was a 2nd and a decent prospect. Mayfield deal is a 2nd and an NHL player. The values seem very similar to me. There is no team that'll offer more than that for a guy who is playing bottom pairing minutes on a non playoff team. Just because you're not winning the trade doesn't make it unfair, the isles get value back for 3rd pairing guy who is likely to walk after this season anyway. And as for the fans who watch him, they're fans for a reason, fans typically overvalue their players (look at any MTL armchair), if a fan of neither of these teams looked at the deal I would beleive they'd think it's even.


    I tend to be pretty objective. I’d rather let Mayfield walk then be on the hook for Foegele. It’s not a good deal for NY.
    11 juin à 17 h 1
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    Quoting: datmonkey91
    OTT has been interested in Kassian for a while, even though I also think it's a bad trade for them, we've seen worse trades happen before. Klefbom likely isn't playing again so just an LTIR contract for them.







    Manson deal was a 2nd and a decent prospect. Mayfield deal is a 2nd and an NHL player. The values seem very similar to me. There is no team that'll offer more than that for a guy who is playing bottom pairing minutes on a non playoff team. Just because you're not winning the trade doesn't make it unfair, the isles get value back for 3rd pairing guy who is likely to walk after this season anyway. And as for the fans who watch him, they're fans for a reason, fans typically overvalue their players (look at any MTL armchair), if a fan of neither of these teams looked at the deal I would beleive they'd think it's even.



    Also I don’t think fans understand that just because ur playing behind Dobson and Pulock that ur a third pair guy. Mayfield can play 1st, 2nd or 3rd pair and has proven it over the years. It’s bad value. There’s a good chance Lou could retain him anyway, I’m not saying they should I’m just saying they can.
    11 juin à 17 h 6
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    Quoting: datmonkey91
    You got Pulock and Dobson playing in your top 4, that leaves mayfield with bottom pairing minutes and little special teams time. It's in the best interest for the isles to trade him before his contract is up. They get a pick which will help them with their weak prospect pool and a player who can play right now. I've only seen isles fans say Mayfield is worth more so I'm gonna assume it's a fair deal.


    imo i just don't see a deal getting done before the deadline unless a team offers a good LD or winger. bare minimum a second round pick will still be on the table from a team at the deadline, and it's not like they have a prospect pushing to replace mayfield or like they need to get rid of his cap hit. i just don't see them trading him when they're looking to be a playoff team again next year unless they get a great offer. if they're out of it at the deadline it'd be a conversation.
    12 juin à 10 h 20
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    Ottawa declines

    No more spots available for basically anybody unless :

    - Veteran Top-6 Winger
    - Veteran Top-4 RHD

    And even if there was a spot, no chance the Sens would PAY to get Kassian, even if they have the worst GM out there

    Quoting: datmonkey91
    I agree with you, but the sens have had interest in him for the past year, and DJ smith likes him so it's not a far fetched move to me


    I never heard anything of that. Not even by another Sens fan
     
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