Chychrun

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Créé par: tstrauss16

Équipe: 2022-23 Blues de St-Louis

Date de création initiale: 29 mai 2022

Publié: 29 mai 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Trades all occur during the draft

2023-24 Moves
- Extend Thomas for 8 years at $7.25M AAV
- Extend Kyrou for 7 years at $7M AAV
- Extend O’Reilly for 5 years at $5.5M AAV
- Extend Toropchenko for 2 years at $950k AAV
- Extend Brown/Walker for 2 years at $787.5k AAV
- Bonus from 2022-23 = $482,500
Leaves the Blues with $80,500,000 Cap Spent and 1 roster forward needed to replace Tarasenko. Start the quest to find the next Nichushkin, or sign Teddy Blueger to have another defensive center on the roster. move Bolduc up with ROR and DP57 to form the French connection, and move Saad to the third line with Schenn and Neighbours.

Bolduc - ROR - Perron
Buch - Thomas - Kyrou
Neighbours - Schenn - Saad
ZAR - Blueger - Toropchenko
Krug - Faulk
Chychrun - Parayko
Meeks - Bortuzzo
Binnington
Holtby
Brown/Walker, Bozie, Rosen

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Mikkola, Niko		3	1 050 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Perron, David	3	3 500 000 $
MacEachern, Mackenzie	2	762 500 $
Joshua, Dakota	2	762 500 $
Holtby, Braden	2	1 500 000 $
Aston-Reese, Zach	3	1 375 000 $
Bozak, Tyler	2	762 500 $
Rosén, Calle	2	762 500 $

Transactions

STL

Chychrun, Jakob

ARI

Kostin, Klim [Droits de RFA]
Perunovich, Scott [Droits de RFA]
Scandella, Marco
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (STL)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (STL)

STL

Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CAR)

CAR

Barbashev, Ivan

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
2024

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 500 000 $	72 355 000 $	1 100 000 $	82 500 $	10 145 000 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Saad, Brandon 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD NTC UFA - 4	O'Reilly, Ryan 1 875 000 $1 875 000 $ C UFA - 1	Perron, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Buchnevich, Pavel 5 800 000 $5 800 000 $ AG, AD, C M-NTC UFA - 3	Thomas, Robert 2 800 000 $2 800 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Tarasenko, Vladimir 3 750 000 $3 750 000 $ AD NTC UFA - 1
Neighbours, Jake 835 833 $835 833 $ (82 500 $$82K) AG, AD RFA - 3	Schenn, Brayden 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ C, AG NTC UFA - 6	Kyrou, Jordan 2 800 000 $2 800 000 $ AD UFA - 1
	Bolduc, Zachary 894 167 $894 167 $ AG RFA - 4	Toropchenko, Alexey 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1
Aston-Reese, Zach 1 375 000 $1 375 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Krug, Torey 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 5	Faulk, Justin 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 5	Binnington, Jordan 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ G NTC UFA - 5
	Parayko, Colton 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 8
	Bortuzzo, Robert 950 000 $950 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Holtby, Braden 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ G UFA
Chychrun, Jakob 4 600 000 $4 600 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 3
Mikkola, Niko 1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ DG UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Rosén, Calle 762 500 $762 500 $ DG UFA - 2
Bozak, Tyler 762 500 $762 500 $ C, AD UFA
Walker, Nathan 750 000 $750 000 $ AG UFA - 1

Équipe de réserve
Joshua, Dakota 762 500 $762 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AG UFA - 2
MacEachern, Mackenzie 762 500 $762 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AG, AD UFA - 1
Brown, Logan 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) C, AG RFA - 1

29 mai 2022 à 9 h 49

MoreHitzSeider

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The old quantity for quality trade. Coyotes decline.

29 mai 2022 à 9 h 50

Xqb15a

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That’s not getting Chychrun, and you’re really overpaying Kyrou and Thomas. Just running it back and adding Chychrun isn’t going to be enough to top COL.

29 mai 2022 à 10 h 0

tstrauss16

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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider

The old quantity for quality trade. Coyotes decline.

It’s not really quantity. 1st, Perunovich and Kostin and then Scandella and a 3rd for basically buying him out. That’s virtually 4 pieces.

29 mai 2022 à 10 h 1

tstrauss16

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Quoting: Xqb15a

That’s not getting Chychrun, and you’re really overpaying Kyrou and Thomas. Just running it back and adding Chychrun isn’t going to be enough to top COL.

Idk man, Avs will be worse next year than this year. Blues coming back with Krug and Chychrun is different than Leddy and Scandella.

29 mai 2022 à 10 h 2

tstrauss16

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Quoting: Xqb15a

That’s not getting Chychrun, and you’re really overpaying Kyrou and Thomas. Just running it back and adding Chychrun isn’t going to be enough to top COL.

What do you expect Thomas and Kyrou to make? I can tell you it’s over $6.5M per year at least

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29 mai 2022 à 12 h 56

mokumboi

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Quoting: Xqb15a

That’s not getting Chychrun, and you’re really overpaying Kyrou and Thomas. Just running it back and adding Chychrun isn’t going to be enough to top COL.

Heh. The Blues were without Krug, lost Binnington in game 3, and the series should have been tied after 6 games anyway. The Blues very much could have taken out Colorado with the current team.

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29 mai 2022 à 13 h 8

tstrauss16

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Quoting: mokumboi

Heh. The Blues were without Krug, lost Binnington in game 3, and the series should have been tied after 6 games anyway. The Blues very much could have taken out Colorado with the current team.

I’m in the mindset that Blues either acquire a LD through trade someone like Chych or Provy. Or resign Leddy and keep Scandella for another run. For Avs, losing Manson and Kadri > Blues losing Leddy Scandella and Barbashev

29 mai 2022 à 14 h 5

mokumboi

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Quoting: tstrauss16

Manson was quite annoyingly one of their top defensemen in the series.

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29 mai 2022 à 14 h 38

tstrauss16

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Quoting: mokumboi

Manson was quite annoyingly one of their top defensemen in the series.

Yup and he will not be signed back. No way they lock him up and get MacKinnon next off-season. Avs have so many team friendly contracts that if they don’t win this year I seriously doubt they contend for long. Val gets doubled, Kadri is gone, MacKinnon is nearly doubled, Lehkonen gets doubled what he makes with current retention, Kuemper is starting at $5M. They will be good still yes, but the reason they can be so deep is because these massive players make minimal money, but when they get paid they’ll have less to work with to disperse the talent.

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29 mai 2022 à 14 h 41

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Quoting: tstrauss16

Idk man, Avs will be worse next year than this year. Blues coming back with Krug and Chychrun is different than Leddy and Scandella.

So COL is going to be worse with natural improvements from Byram and Newhook, an influx of youth size and speed in the bottom 6 w/Meyers and Maltsev, and $24M in cap space. Sure tell yourself COL is going to be worse.

29 mai 2022 à 14 h 45

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Quoting: tstrauss16

So think they can’t sign Manson? $24M in cap space this year. Compher and EJ come of the books when MacKinnon is due. And if the cap went up a $1M for next season no reason that doesn’t happen again. Is Burakovsky gone, almost assuredly, is Kadri gone probably but if your him do you take a bit of a discount to stay with a team that had your back when things went bad unlike his previous team? But people acting like Byram isn’t going to be a beast and Newhook isn’t going to be good just aren’t paying attention.

29 mai 2022 à 14 h 47

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Quoting: Xqb15a

Never said worse, I think there is a clear advantage to having the forward group they have now. $24M in cap spent on 3 players when MacKinnon gets $12M, Val gets $5.5M and Kuemper gets $5M. You can’t tell me losing Kadri, Manson, Burakovsky isn’t detrimental right now to the Avs. Yes, Newhook and Byram will be dope, but right now losing big pieces is huge.

29 mai 2022 à 14 h 50

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Quoting: mokumboi

Heh. The Blues were without Krug, lost Binnington in game 3, and the series should have been tied after 6 games anyway. The Blues very much could have taken out Colorado with the current team.

. Oh so you’re clairvoyant? Who says Binnington plays and they don’t lose in 5? Sure it went 6 but go look at the underlying metrics. STL was dominated, dominated 5v5. Look at the puck luck PDO? STL literally scored 4 goals in a series off of Avs stick including one that blew the stick up. They lost all 3 games at home, and they are 2-8 vs the Avs in the last 2 playoffs. How is that close?

29 mai 2022 à 14 h 51

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tstrauss16

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Quoting: Xqb15a

Just acknowledged they will be sick, but as of right now, again, losing big pieces is more detrimental to the Avs. If Kadri takes a discount, I hope the Blues convince Thomas and Kyrou to sign for super cheap to load up for a cup window. Kadri won’t take under $7M if he is smart.

29 mai 2022 à 14 h 54

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Quoting: Xqb15a

Say Binnington wins game 3 with how the game was going. 2-1 series lead for STL. Give Avs Game 4 whatever. Blues win 5. It’s 3-2 STL heading home. That’s a whole new ballgame. Pressure is on the Avs now. It’s how a series flows. Losing Binnington was huge. You can argue without Girard Avs were at a disadvantage. We didn’t have Krug since like Game 2 round 1. The point being made is it could have looked different if the right guys were in the game.

29 mai 2022 à 14 h 56

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Quoting: tstrauss16

Your exact words “Avs will be worse next year than this”

Nichushkin comps are Coleman and Rust at $5 not $5.5. Fully expect them to try and bring Manson back and he said he wants to re-sign. Now personally I think there is a decent chance they move Girard in the off season in part to keep Manson. Are they running back this team, of course not. But Makar is still getting better too, I think it is unwise to think that the Avs are just going to come back to the pack.

29 mai 2022 à 15 h 0

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Quoting: tstrauss16

I think if the Blues don’t play a bit of hard ball with both Kyrou and Thomas it would be a mistake. $7M is Landeskog money and neither have been anywhere close to as good as him, and they have a great gig in STL, neither has to be the man the team is real good.

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29 mai 2022 à 15 h 5

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Xqb15a

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Quoting: tstrauss16

Injuries are part of the game unfortunately. I can only imagine what Byram would have looked like with a whole season. Hell the Avs lost a game 7 playing a 3rd string goalie 2 yrs ago. It sucks but it doesn’t change the fact they lost.

29 mai 2022 à 15 h 10

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tstrauss16

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Quoting: Xqb15a

Again missing the point. We lost, season is over, we look forward to next year. The point being made, is the series looks different going forward. And to your point maybe Avs can get a deal done with Manson. In my head tho looking ahead for you guys (I assume you’re an Avs fan). Is this in 2023-24, I’d actually like to know what you think of this because I think I am very reasonable with these numbers.
In 2023-24 I’ll give you $84M to work with:
Mac - $12M
Rant - $9.25M
Makar - $9M
Landy - $7M
Val - $5.5M
Girard - $5M
Kuemper - $5M
Toews - $4.1M
Lehkonen - $3.6M
Francouz - $2M
O’Connor - $1.05M
That’s 11 players you need 12 more and you got $25.5M to work with

29 mai 2022 à 15 h 11

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tstrauss16

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Quoting: Xqb15a

Totally agree I wouldnt mind Guentz deals for them both

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29 mai 2022 à 17 h 2

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mokumboi

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Quoting: Xqb15a

Heh. You guys all have the same lines. And I said "could" - not "would" have taken them out. And I don't believe the word close was in my comment, so I'm not sure that's directed to.

Edit: Oh... and each team won the "underlying metrics" three times in the series. Let's get that right.

29 mai 2022 à 19 h 51

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Xqb15a

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Quoting: tstrauss16

No you’re trying to extrapolate an off season 2 seasons away using values for contracts YOU assigned, not taking into account trades, prospects and 2 drafts.

29 mai 2022 à 20 h 21

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Quoting: Xqb15a

No you’re trying to extrapolate an off season 2 seasons away using values for contracts YOU assigned, not taking into account trades, prospects and 2 drafts.

I mean it seems like that’s the core in Colorado. You’ll have Newhook and Byram of course, plus other prospects and guys to round out the team, but these are very realistic. Val is offered 5.5 x 5, Lehkonen is offered 3.6 x 3, and Kuemper is offered 5 x 4. Then you gotta get MacKinnon so 12 x 8. That’s all I did. Only 4 guesses. If MacKinnon is the best player in the world he’ll be paid like one. The other signings are very cost effective and team friendly. Trades will happen yes, but looking at the core of the roster that’s what it looks like. You can trade Francouz or O’Connor, I don’t care but looking at those 5 forwards, 3 defense, and Kuemper. That’s the core of the team. Maybe Girard is gone, that’s the only one on the cusp.

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