100% agree! I wish we’d keep him tbh but understand why we’re not. I think the best fit for Fiala is with Barzel, but will they pony up enough? Doesn’t feel like they will.

Two out of the past 3 years he’s been a 6 mill caliber winger during the regular season and he’s only 25. It’s very likely he’d be the wilds 3rd best winger behind Kaprizov and Boldy next season. He’s a two way beast and he’s an elite skater. He had a down season like 90% of the isles roster but he’s only 25 and it’s highly likely he provides excess value on his contract

Lol Zucc just put up 79 pts in 70 games, but yeah I’m sure Anthony “has never hit 40 pts” Beauvillier would be the 3rd best winger.

Yeah I read the article.

“Reinhart is probably the closest comparable to Fiala for what a realistic package looks like. Reinhart scored at a 38-goal pace on a dreadful Sabres team in 2020-21 and was a bona fide top-line-caliber talent like Fiala. Reinhart was in the same boat as an RFA one year away from UFA status.

Florida surrendered a 2022 first-round pick (top-10 protected) and prospect goaltender Devon Levi for Reinhart. Levi was a seventh-round pick in 2020, but he had an outstanding World Juniors performance later that year, posting three shutouts and a 0.67 goals-against average in seven games to guide Canada to a gold-medal win. Levi was only one year removed from being a seventh-round pick at the time of the trade, but he’s turned into a legitimate blue-chip prospect since joining the Sabres organization. Levi was the best netminder in college hockey last season and looks like he could be the Sabres’ goalie of the future.

Would a first-round pick and a quality prospect be a reasonable package for Fiala based on the Reinhart return?”

If OTT is offering 7OA and a “quality prospect” the Islanders will have to beat that “quality prospect” by a bit since their first doesn’t have as much value as 7OA.

You’re not factoring age and the fact that Zuccarello is a product of Kaprizov. Why are you ignoring the fact that two of Beauvilliers best years (his age 22 and 23 season) happened during Covid shortened seasons. No sh*t he didn’t hit 40 points , but he’s was a high end 2nd liner both seasons which is why it’s better to go by his rate numbers to show the impact he actually had.

Anthony Beauvillier, reportedly signed 3x$4.1M by NYI, is a two-way top-six scoring winger. #Isles pic.twitter.com/sWIbq1TW2K

— JFresh (@JFreshHockey) September 1, 2021

I dont think ottawa offers that. If they did youre right the isles would have to go higher and personally i wouldnt. But remember that FLA pick was supposed to be around 17-20.

Lol stop the presses, he was on a 47 point pace 2 years ago! My mistake.

Also, convenient you grabbed his player card from September. You looked at his updated numbers that include this year?

Overall WAR 29th percentile, EVD 22%.

Yes I said he had a down year like most isles forwards. But he’s entering his age 25 season and will likely bounce back. Trotz’s coaching is a big reason why a lot of isles forwards had down years,including Barzal and Wahlstrom. I’ll take the 3 year sample size of having a top 6 impact as a better measure of what he’ll be in the future than 1 down year

I will also add Rossi is expected to take Fialas top 6 spot. Adding another winger doesn’t make a lot of sense. We’ve got plenty of them. We need Centers and RHD.

I think they will. Dorian is desperate to keep his job. I believe it’s 5 seasons in a row without a playoff appearance now. Dorian has also personally been scouting Fiala a lot. 7OA doesn’t help him win this season or maybe even next season.

It feels like if the wild take back a winger it’s gotta be an high end guy, not quality top 6 winger.

I’m not saying he’s a bad player, I’m saying he wouldn’t be the Wilds 3rd best winger.

Zuccarellos underlying numbers at even strength were mediocre this season, he was actually below average at driving play at 5v5 but when you play with a top 5 winger your on ice S% sky rockets. He turns 35 next season and it’s highly unlikely he puts up a PPG.

Beauvillier is likely a 25 G , 45-55 pt winger with a great two two way impact . Plus he’s been one of the most clutch playoff performers in the last 3 years.

Besides Boldy and Kaprizov , there’s no one on the Wild that is a lock to have a better impact than Beauvillier next season.

The issue you’re missing is the Wild don’t have room for him in the top 6. So he’d be a 4th liner.

Top 6- Kaprisov, Zuc, Rossi, Boldy, and centers Gaudreau and Hartman. That’s our top 6 next year as things stand today. If they move Hartman to wing and Rossi to C then that’s still our top 6. Sorry but he just doesn’t make sense for our team. He’s a good player but is what he is at this point. Wild will be looking for more upside or a better player with the return.

Im not sure the Wild have been trying to trade him for 2+ seasons....they protected him in the expansion draft. And Billy was just was defending him, I dont think he is moved but if he is moved it probably will be at the trade deadline and would probably get a 2nd and 3rd or two 2nd rounders, hell it could be higher picks or prospects if he stays healthy next year and returns to 17-18 year numbers. look what Chiarot got at the deadline.

Russo has said this many times and reiterated that in his latest straight from the source Pod. He said Billy has tried to trade him for 2+ years and there has been very minimal interest in Dumba league wide. Injuries, cap hit, and performance drop off. If he could fetch a 2nd and a 3rd he would’ve been moved already I’d imagine.

Russo did say nothing seems imminent on a Dumba trade but also said he doesn’t see Dumba here beyond next season. We’ve got a lot of d prospects coming up.

You can spin it anyway you’d like, but the reality is that Beau’s very best season had him paced for 48 points. Zucc had 79 in 70 games this year and was a consistent 50-60 pt player with the Rags. They are very starkly not on the same level.

I don’t care about the age, Beau hasn’t even sniffed that level of pace or projection. There is absolutely nothing tangible that suggests he is as good as Zucc, or that he ever will be.

Doesn’t mean he’s bad. But stop overrating your guy.

By literally every advanced metric Beauvillier was a high end 2nd line winger. You put a lot of emphasis into points when they lack context. By your logic Zuccarello is a better player than mangiapane because he put up more points.

Zuccarello isn’t going to keep putting up numbers like this - and pretty much any slightly above average winger can put up great numbers playing with Kaprizov. Before he got got put on a line with Kaprizov he was a low end 2nd liner.

You’re looking at a player card from September of last year. Beaus metrics were god awful this year. So, no not by “literally every advanced metric.” What you mean to say is, “his metrics are good, but please ignore this entire season because bad”

Reading comprehension is hard for you I guess. I’ve stated he had a down season, but over a much larger sample size he’s been a high end 2nd line winger forward.

4th liner lol, seems like you’re overvaluing your own players. The odds of Beauvillier having a better overall impact than Gaudreau and Hartman are extremely high.

What I stated about Beauvillier being included in the trade is a lot more realistic than the isles giving up Wahlstrom or Raty + for Fiala. That trade would set the isles back years. It reminds me of when everyone said isles need to give up Barzal and Pulock for Mat duchene

Hartman and Geadreau are Centers… unless Beau plays C now? That won’t matter. Hartman centered Zuc and Kaprisov. I doubt they’re looking to move him to wing after the season they just had. But maybe Beau is so good they do that lol. So again, Beau would be on our 4th line. Kaprisov- Hartman- Zuc. Rossi-Gaudreau- Boldy. GREEF line. As you can see, we need centers not Avg wings. Evanson loves Gaudreau at C, so I don’t see him moving off that 2C spot unless a better C comes in. The Wild would probably prefer a 2nd round pick to Beau. If Beau played C that’s an entirely different conversation. We’d probably accept that then. But he’s a winger.

He’s only a “high end” 2nd line winger if you throw out this entire year. If you include it, he’s very much a 2nd/3rd liner.

You don’t just get to cherry pick seasons when evaluating players. You’re the one arguing to look at the aggregate, so do it then. Include this year.

I’m not sure why you’re struggling so hard to comprehend that, I guess basic statistics is hard for you.

TBF they could run kap-hartman-zucc and beau-rossi-boldy

His opinion holds as much weight as my goldfishes opinion.