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what could this combo bring back

Créé par: Bruins_Guy613
Équipe: 2022-23 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 26 mai 2022
Publié: 26 mai 2022
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if the Bruins decided to trade Carlo and Debrusk as a package what could that bring us back? does it get close to someone like Barzal who put up 60 points and needs a new deal? does it open the door on JT MIller? given lysell makes the jump next season or the one after do we target a short term RW? i think center is the most important area to address.
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26 mai 2022 à 9 h 41
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Ahhh yes, were at the point in the discussion where a fanboy gets upset that someone has a differing view and lashes out.


Bruh ur just wrong
26 mai 2022 à 9 h 42
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Sure... and i really like both players. I should have been more clear, I meant more in the long term. Also, with this past year being a step back for them - it may be a fluke and they may compete next year, but if it isn't you have to start moving pieces potentially like JG, etc. I shouldve just said that Barzal is too much of an importnat piece for NYI in the present and in the future to really consider moving. Have to get a ridiculous package back, or he would need to pull and Eichel to get moved.


I agree with moving veteran options. Fans have been making up Barzal trades all off-season, it’s fun but not realistic
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26 mai 2022 à 9 h 42
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He was for boston.


Just like Barzal was top line center when Boston lost to them in the playoffs in 20-21.
26 mai 2022 à 9 h 44
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Ahhh yes, were at the point in the discussion where a fanboy gets upset that someone has a differing view and lashes out.


It’s not a different perspective. The offer is garbage. If you defend garbage what do you expect? Don’t name ur self after an LI legend and make an ass of ur self. It’s disrespectful.
26 mai 2022 à 9 h 50
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Just like Barzal was top line center when Boston lost to them in the playoffs in 20-21.


Cut this out. It has nothing to do with the conversation. You think I’m not aware what happened in 20-21? You think this is some sort of sick burn?

The thing you’re not seeming to realize is that i never advocated for this trade. Do you think i created this ACGM or something? Be better, across the board.
26 mai 2022 à 9 h 52
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I don’t have an issue with either idea. Hopefully Lambert gives Barzal a chance to prove himself defensively next year. I think he is more than ready to step up on that end.


I think Barzal will break out, we move Palms or Pageau and Raty fills in at 3C. We dont go after a big FA this year but next year we do. Huge move and we go over the edge
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26 mai 2022 à 9 h 54
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Cut this out. It has nothing to do with the conversation. You think I’m not aware what happened in 20-21? You think this is some sort of sick burn?

The thing you’re not seeming to realize is that i never advocated for this trade. Do you think i created this ACGM or something? Be better, across the board.


IK you didn’t create it you pylon. Just said ur take is trash.
26 mai 2022 à 9 h 56
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IK you didn’t create it you pylon. Just said ur take is trash.


What do you think my take was?
26 mai 2022 à 9 h 56
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Cut this out. It has nothing to do with the conversation. You think I’m not aware what happened in 20-21? You think this is some sort of sick burn?

The thing you’re not seeming to realize is that i never advocated for this trade. Do you think i created this ACGM or something? Be better, across the board.


You called Barzal a second line center lmao. Why r u surprised ur getting proper **** for that take?
26 mai 2022 à 9 h 57
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They wouldn’t, but i don’t think it’s crazy…not because of what boston is offering, but I because I think the league kind of figured out barzal. He had that 85 point second campaign, and since then its kind of been trending backwards. I don’t think he’s a 1C at this point. Very high end 2C that’s going to get you 60 points.

That said, i just can’t see the isles trading him.


Quoting: CMcAvoy73
They wouldn’t, but i don’t think it’s crazy…not because of what boston is offering, but I because I think the league kind of figured out barzal. He had that 85 point second campaign, and since then its kind of been trending backwards. I don’t think he’s a 1C at this point. Very high end 2C that’s going to get you 60 points.

That said, i just can’t see the isles trading him.


Right here
26 mai 2022 à 9 h 59
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What do you think my take was?


My bigger issue was you calling him a sixty point guy tbh. I’m not happy with his progress on d but Barry never gave him a chance to prove himself.
26 mai 2022 à 10 h 4
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You called Barzal a second line center lmao. Why r u surprised ur getting proper **** for that take?


Over the past 4 seasons Barzal is 30th among centers in points per game. 45th in goals. Its not exactly a hot take. I said he was a very high end 2C. Personally, I subscribe to the theory of scarcity that would indicate there aren’t enough number 1 centers in the league for every team to have one (otherwise, there wouldn’t be so many bad teams). I think he’s somewhere in the 25 range league wide, which for me pushes him into the high end 2C category.

Now quit getting all bent out of shape because someone thinks a player on your favorite hockey team is less than perfect. Its lame.
26 mai 2022 à 10 h 6
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My bigger issue was you calling him a sixty point guy tbh. I’m not happy with his progress on d but Barry never gave him a chance to prove himself.


Your issue is with me calling a 60 point guy a 60 point guy. Got it.
26 mai 2022 à 10 h 7
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Over the past 4 seasons Barzal is 30th among centers in points per game. 45th in goals. Its not exactly a hot take. I said he was a very high end 2C. Personally, I subscribe to the theory of scarcity that would indicate there aren’t enough number 1 centers in the league for every team to have one (otherwise, there wouldn’t be so many bad teams). I think he’s somewhere in the 25 range league wide, which for me pushes him into the high end 2C category.

Now quit getting all bent out of shape because someone thinks a player on your favorite hockey team is less than perfect. Its lame.


I mean his point production is down cause of the system lmao. Fact you can’t separate that from the point rankings u posted is ridiculous. Don’t be mad someone ripped u to shreds if ur being a clown. Just don’t be a clown. It’s that simple. Calling someone a fanboy is a pretty ****ty comeback when u don’t know what ur talking about pal.
26 mai 2022 à 10 h 8
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I mean his point production is down cause of the system lmao. Fact you can’t separate that from the point rankings u posted is ridiculous. Don’t be mad someone ripped u to shreds if ur being a clown. Just don’t be a clown. It’s that simple. Calling someone a fanboy is a pretty ****ty comeback when u don’t know what ur talking about pal.


Well, you’re acting like a fanboy. You seem to be getting legitimately angry because someone has a differing opinion.

Tons of players play in a defensive system. Thats a lame excuse. Its not like barzal is a selke guy. Over the course of four seasons with that system he was an even +/-. Generally thats not the best stat, but with a sample size that big its worth noting.
26 mai 2022 à 10 h 8
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Your issue is with me calling a 60 point guy a 60 point guy. Got it.


Lmao not what I said but ok. Alex Kerfoot had 50 points this season and I wouldn’t compare him to Barzy. It’s a ****ty comparison. Just move on bro.
26 mai 2022 à 10 h 9
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Lmao not what I said but ok. Alex Kerfoot had 50 points this season and I wouldn’t compare him to Barzy. It’s a ****ty comparison. Just move on bro.


I didn’t compare him to kerfoot. Why would i?
26 mai 2022 à 10 h 9
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Well, you’re acting like a fanboy. You seem to be getting legitimately angry because someone has a differing opinion.

Tons of players play in a defensive system. Thats a lame excuse. Its not like barzal is a selke guy. Over the course of four seasons with that system he was an even +/-. Generally thats not the best stat, but with a sample size that big its worth noting.


Lmao you are kind of like a pigeon. You just keep ****ting everywhere.
26 mai 2022 à 10 h 10
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They wouldn’t, but i don’t think it’s crazy…not because of what boston is offering, but I because I think the league kind of figured out barzal. He had that 85 point second campaign, and since then its kind of been trending backwards. I don’t think he’s a 1C at this point. Very high end 2C that’s going to get you 60 points.

That said, i just can’t see the isles trading him.


im sure the offensive numbers of are gonna get increase under a new coach. no reason to sell low on barzal.
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26 mai 2022 à 10 h 10
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I didn’t compare him to kerfoot. Why would i?


If you don’t understand I was mocking ur take idk what to tell u.
26 mai 2022 à 10 h 10
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im sure the offensive numbers of are gonna get increase under a new coach. no reason to sell low on barzal.


Tell that to this pylon.
26 mai 2022 à 10 h 10
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im sure the offensive numbers of are gonna get increase under a new coach. no reason to sell low on barzal.


Never said they should move barzal.
26 mai 2022 à 10 h 11
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If you don’t understand I was mocking ur take idk what to tell u.

You just did a very poor job of it. You selected one outlier season. I’m going of four seasons, which represents like 80% of barzals career.
26 mai 2022 à 10 h 13
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Lmao not what I said but ok. Alex Kerfoot had 50 points this season and I wouldn’t compare him to Barzy. It’s a ****ty comparison. Just move on bro.


Quoting: CMcAvoy73
I didn’t compare him to kerfoot. Why would i?


You can look at point totals and make whatever ridiculous comparison you want. Barzal was a PPG his rookie year. Part of that was having Tavares and part of that was the Islanders we’re actually trying to score that year.
26 mai 2022 à 10 h 13
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You just did a very poor job of it. You selected one outlier season. I’m going of four seasons, which represents like 80% of barzals career.


The fact you don’t understand the impact Trotz has had on that entire roster in the regular season is atrocious. I can’t even tell if ur serious or just messing with me.
 
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