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What could have been

Créé par: Lancebmx
Équipe: 2021-22 Kraken de Seattle
Date de création initiale: 22 mai 2022
Publié: 22 mai 2022
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Description
Just redoing the expansion draft, not taking how players played this year into consideration, all based on last year's performances.

Do what you want with the trades, I didn't feel like recreating them cause everything would be different although I think someone like vatrano could have been traded to Toronto at the start of the year for a second or so, then they wouldn't have the need to sign Ritchie.

Just an idea of what the team could have looked like, obviously a bunch of defencemen would need to be traded in the offseason but that should have been pretty easy.
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SEA
  1. Lyubushkin, Ilya
Détails additionnels:
Picked from Arizona instead of Pitlick.
TOR
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
If I had my choice between depth shut down RD and bottom 6 forwards I take the dman all day personally.
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SEA
  1. Bean, Jake
Détails additionnels:
Geekie looked ok but I would take the dman any day off the week. Could possibly still trade him to Columbus for a second afterwards.
CBJ
  1. Geekie, Morgan
Détails additionnels:
Picked from Carolina instead.
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SEA
  1. Zadorov, Nikita
Détails additionnels:
Picked from Chicago instead of Quenneville who they let walk as a UFA.
CGY
    Could still trade him to Calgary.
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    SEA
    1. Domi, Max
    Détails additionnels:
    I probably take a chance on Domi over picking Bayreuther and not signing him. Either him or Carlsson.
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      Picked from Columbus.
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      SEA
      1. Stecher, Troy
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      Picked from Detroit instead.
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      SEA
      1. Vatrano, Frank
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      Vatrano is a proven 20 goal scorer I pick him over Driedger.
      NYR
      1. Driedger, Chris
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      Picked from Florida instead.
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      SEA
      1. Lizotte, Blake
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      I like Lizotte more than the fourth round pick they got for MacDermid.
      LAK
      1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (COL)
      Détails additionnels:
      Picked from LA instead.
      8.
      SEA
      1. Kähkönen, Kaapo
      Détails additionnels:
      I like kahkonen more than Soucy, I think he has a greater potential than some other goalies available.
      SJS
      1. Soucy, Carson
      Détails additionnels:
      Picked instead from Minnesota.
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      SEA
      1. Kulak, Brett
      Détails additionnels:
      I take the nhl defenceman in Kulak over Fleury. If they really wanted to get the brothers together I'm sure they could have traded for him for cheap.
      EDM
      1. Fleury, Cale
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      Picked from Montreal instead.
      10.
      SEA
      1. Duchene, Matt
      Détails additionnels:
      I might take some slack for this but Duchene is the only legit 1C option in the expansion draft. Johansen would be my second choice but I think Duchene is better. The term and money could be kind of scary but they need someone to play up the middle in the top 6.
      NSH
      1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (FLA)
      2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
      3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
      Détails additionnels:
      Picked from Nashville instead of jarnkrok.
      11.
      SEA
      1. Bastian, Nathan
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      I like what he brings and I wouldn't have let him go on waivers.
      NJD
      12.
      SEA
      1. Atkinson, Cam
      Détails additionnels:
      If this was a trade option for vorachek I am all over it.
      PHI
      1. Twarynski, Carsen
      Détails additionnels:
      Vorachek picked instead then traded to Columbus.
      13.
      SEA
      1. Middleton, Jake
      Détails additionnels:
      Nothing about Alex True really impressed me, I take the depth nhl dman.
      MIN
      1. True, Alex
      Détails additionnels:
      Picked from SJ instead.
      14.
      SEA
      1. Colton, Ross
      Détails additionnels:
      This one still blows me away considering Tampas situation. I do like Yanni Gourde but I don't like how contract and at the time I thought Colton was a far better pick for the team. I think if they really wanted Gourde that a deal could be worked out if he was willing to waive.
      TBL
      1. Gourde, Yanni
      Détails additionnels:
      Picked instead.
      15.
      SEA
      1. Vanecek, Vitek
      Détails additionnels:
      I'll just keep him thanks.
      WSH
      1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
      16.
      SEA
      1. DeMelo, Dylan
      Détails additionnels:
      I like Appleton but I would pick the right shot defenceman over him.
      WPG
      1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
      Détails additionnels:
      Picked instead
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      22 mai 2022 à 2 h 2
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      I understand why Seattle didn't pick Duchene with how he was trending, but man with hindsight this team could be sooo much better. Even the picks they could have gotten for flipping some of these guys would be far more noteworthy.
      22 mai 2022 à 3 h 6
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      Quoting: Wqrrior
      I understand why Seattle didn't pick Duchene with how he was trending, but man with hindsight this team could be sooo much better. Even the picks they could have gotten for flipping some of these guys would be far more noteworthy.


      I tried not using hindsight and I flipped back and forth between Johansen and Duchene and I've made teams like this with both. I just felt like those two were the only players available that have and could fill a 1C roll, Yanni Gourde is a 3C at best and McCann just isn't there either, although I do like him.
      22 mai 2022 à 6 h 13
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      Quoting: Lancebmx
      I tried not using hindsight and I flipped back and forth between Johansen and Duchene and I've made teams like this with both. I just felt like those two were the only players available that have and could fill a 1C roll, Yanni Gourde is a 3C at best and McCann just isn't there either, although I do like him.


      I do like your optimism, but there were reasons why Francis didn’t go after the bigger contracts in the expansion draft. He was really hoping that GM’s would be as stupid as they were with Vegas and they would pay in draft capital. Unfortunately, Francis rolled the hard line of wanting a first round pick for ANY expansion draft considerations. He wants to build the team through the draft, and while hindsight screws over certain picks, Francis went on the safe route. Francis wanted to take as anti Vegas an approach as possible, so the earliest that the Kraken might look to compete would be in maybe the 2025-26 season, when they have their core established and the prospects coming up.
      22 mai 2022 à 6 h 39
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      I do like your optimism, but there were reasons why Francis didn’t go after the bigger contracts in the expansion draft. He was really hoping that GM’s would be as stupid as they were with Vegas and they would pay in draft capital. Unfortunately, Francis rolled the hard line of wanting a first round pick for ANY expansion draft considerations. He wants to build the team through the draft, and while hindsight screws over certain picks, Francis went on the safe route. Francis wanted to take as anti Vegas an approach as possible, so the earliest that the Kraken might look to compete would be in maybe the 2025-26 season, when they have their core established and the prospects coming up.


      Still alot of their picks don't make sense for that either, why not grab guys and trade them for draft capital? They drafted a couple guys that they let walk as UFAs when they could have drafted players as positive assets. The whole expansion draft was very confusing. Also this roster would have alot more draft capital than their current one.
      22 mai 2022 à 6 h 57
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      Seattle took Bayruether and let him walk because they wanted Kivlenieks. Obviously, that was before Kivi did what he did and lost his life, so they opted to take effectively no one by letting Bayruther return to Columbus. It was just a sign of respect.
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      22 mai 2022 à 8 h 41
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      Quoting: Lancebmx
      Still alot of their picks don't make sense for that either, why not grab guys and trade them for draft capital? They drafted a couple guys that they let walk as UFAs when they could have drafted players as positive assets. The whole expansion draft was very confusing. Also this roster would have alot more draft capital than their current one.


      I mean, for certain teams, the best choice wasn’t exactly the ideal choice for Francis. For example, JVR, Johansen, Duchene, Tarasenko, and a few others would have gotten a pretty decent return if they had the years they had this year. That being said, up until that point on the contracts they were on, they were either inconsistent on the scoresheet or limited with injuries in Tarasenko’s case. While they would have been good assets to flip, they would have had to have the seasons they had this year, and that was by no means a guarantee. And with Francis, he can be very particular in that sense. Even the UFA signings, Grubauer is still an elite goalie, and I look at him this year as I look at Markstrom’s first year with Calgary. And with some elite UFA players coming due in the next couple of years, Francis might end up accelerating his build with some UFA signings, with players like Horvat, Larkin, Huberdeau, and Pastrnak at the forefront of the picture.
      22 mai 2022 à 8 h 46
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      Seattle took Bayruether and let him walk because they wanted Kivlenieks. Obviously, that was before Kivi did what he did and lost his life, so they opted to take effectively no one by letting Bayruther return to Columbus. It was just a sign of respect.


      That is understandable
      22 mai 2022 à 10 h 13
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      You forgot to add a second to the leafs trade
      22 mai 2022 à 10 h 22
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      Quoting: odyssey
      You forgot to add a second to the leafs trade


      What are you talking about?
      22 mai 2022 à 10 h 25
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      I understand why they picked Appleton over DeMelo. With Larsson and Oleksiak in the top RD spots, it would be a bit much to have a 3rd pairing RD making $3million.
      22 mai 2022 à 10 h 36
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      Quoting: Mr_Canoehead
      I understand why they picked Appleton over DeMelo. With Larsson and Oleksiak in the top RD spots, it would be a bit much to have a 3rd pairing RD making $3million.


      I was looking more at the trade potential but I do agree with you.
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      22 mai 2022 à 11 h 4
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      What are you talking about?


      Lyubushkin got a second a 4th and a roster player
      22 mai 2022 à 11 h 32
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      Quoting: Lancebmx
      I was looking more at the trade potential but I do agree with you.


      That makes alot of sense, load up and flip. I think Vegas was planning on doing that in year 1 until they realized they were good.
      22 mai 2022 à 11 h 34
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      Quoting: odyssey
      Lyubushkin got a second a 4th and a roster player


      Yeah that's nice, it wasn't a trade back it was just me picking him over Pitlick from Arizona.
      22 mai 2022 à 11 h 42
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      Quoting: Mr_Canoehead
      That makes alot of sense, load up and flip. I think Vegas was planning on doing that in year 1 until they realized they were good.


      Also how stubborn Francis was with making deals with teams was ridiculous. I get wanting to get the best for your team but I feel there could have been a couple reasonable deals to be had.
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      22 mai 2022 à 12 h 35
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      Quoting: Lancebmx
      Also how stubborn Francis was with making deals with teams was ridiculous. I get wanting to get the best for your team but I feel there could have been a couple reasonable deals to be had.


      I don't remember what the insiders were saying at the time, was Francis asking for Vegas expansion draft pricing (a first or a good prospect)?
      22 mai 2022 à 15 h 17
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      I don't remember what the insiders were saying at the time, was Francis asking for Vegas expansion draft pricing (a first or a good prospect)?


      Something like that
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