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Créé par: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 29 avr. 2022
Publié: 29 avr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
You have the cap, go all in.

Sign Siegenthaler to an 8 year, 5 mil per extension
Sharangovich to a 4 years, 5.025 mil per extension
Ty Smith to a 2 years, 2.950 mil per extension
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 050 000 $
66 905 000 $
2850 000 $
2925 000 $
33 950 000 $
Transactions
1.
NJD
  1. Lehner, Robin
  2. Roy, Nicolas [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
Lehner likely wants out after how terrible they have treated him
Vegas has no cap for Roy, he is going
VGK
  1. Graves, Ryan (1 570 000 $ retained)
  2. McLeod, Michael
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
Graves is really good
McLeod is cheap
Get a pick out of it
2.
NJD
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MIN)
Détails additionnels:
25TH OVR
MIN
  1. Kuokkanen, Janne
  2. Okhotiuk, Nikita
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
6th OVR
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2282 500 000 $77 081 666 $0 $1 650 000 $5 418 334 $
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NMC
UFA - 6
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M-NTC
UFA - 3
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DG/DD
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29 avr. 2022 à 10 h 7
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Lehner+Roy probably won't cost that much because Vegas has limited leverage.

Maybe things change but trading that much for an expiring UFA on defense who doesn't line up with the timeline of Hughes and Hischier would fly in the face of absolutely everything Tom has said
29 avr. 2022 à 10 h 10
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29 avr. 2022 à 10 h 11
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If Lehner is traded, Vegas will have cap for Roy
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29 avr. 2022 à 10 h 14
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Lehner+Roy probably won't cost that much because Vegas has limited leverage.

Maybe things change but trading that much for an expiring UFA on defense who doesn't line up with the timeline of Hughes and Hischier would fly in the face of absolutely everything Tom has said


the Devils have way too many average prospects. best to try and contend now with Hamilton's prime and Holtz/Mercer/Luke Hughes on ELCs before they combine to cost like 20 mil or something
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29 avr. 2022 à 10 h 29
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the Devils have way too many average prospects. best to try and contend now with Hamilton's prime and Holtz/Mercer/Luke Hughes on ELCs before they combine to cost like 20 mil or something


That's fine, but neither of these make sense in that context either. If we're trading our first round pick to Minnesota, it'll be Fiala most likely.

If we're trading it for a defenseman, its Chychrun most likely, right?

I'm not opposed to the concept. Just think the execution here is far below optimal.
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29 avr. 2022 à 11 h 8
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That's fine, but neither of these make sense in that context either. If we're trading our first round pick to Minnesota, it'll be Fiala most likely.

If we're trading it for a defenseman, its Chychrun most likely, right?

I'm not opposed to the concept. Just think the execution here is far below optimal.


why would you ever get a LD? There is a huge backup and even if u play smith on the right side. you still got like 6+ LD
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29 avr. 2022 à 11 h 10
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why would you ever get a LD? There is a huge backup and even if u play smith on the right side. you still got like 6+ LD


Because NHL players, particularly very good ones like Hamilton, Severson, and Chychrun, can play wherever they need to

Siegs - Hamilton
Chych - Severson
Graves - literally whoever.

If you're moving a 5th overall pick, it better be for the best player possible. Especially something as nickel-and-dimey as "well now you have too many mediocre LD"
29 avr. 2022 à 11 h 13
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Because NHL players, particularly very good ones like Hamilton, Severson, and Chychrun, can play wherever they need to

Siegs - Hamilton
Chych - Severson
Graves - literally whoever.


okay so where do Hughes, Smith, Mukhamadullin, Vukojevic, Bahl and Okhotiuk play? Now I get maybe the Mukhamadullin and Vukojevic dont play in the NHL next year, but what about the other 4? Smith fills in for 3RD, then Hughes is stuck in college or the AHL and Bahl and Okhotiuk are nowhere. Seems like a few LD have to go because the future is (IMO) 1LD-Hughes, 2LD-Siegs and 3LD-Smith/Mukhamadullin
29 avr. 2022 à 11 h 19
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okay so where do Hughes, Smith, Mukhamadullin, Vukojevic, Bahl and Okhotiuk play? Now I get maybe the Mukhamadullin and Vukojevic dont play in the NHL next year, but what about the other 4? Smith fills in for 3RD, then Hughes is stuck in college or the AHL and Bahl and Okhotiuk are nowhere. Seems like a few LD have to go because the future is (IMO) 1LD-Hughes, 2LD-Siegs and 3LD-Smith/Mukhamadullin


If all these guys are so good that they /need/ a spot in the NHL, you let Severson and Graves walk and get cheaper and younger.

I just doubt any of these guys are so good that you absolutely NEED them in the NHL and can't use them in trades or as 7D

And even if they are they doesn't remotely come close to a justification for trading 5th overall for a pending UFA
29 avr. 2022 à 13 h 43
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If Lehner is traded, Vegas will have cap for Roy


Glad someone gets it lol
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29 avr. 2022 à 13 h 48
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Glad someone gets it lol


Quoting: Shibbal18
If Lehner is traded, Vegas will have cap for Roy


Not really tbh. Unless Vegas lets Hague go in a trade or OS getting a roster player back and dont re-sign Reilly, Roy is likely gone too
29 avr. 2022 à 14 h 12
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Okhotiuk made himself relevant these last couple of days. If Graves bolts, Siegenthaler is top leftie, everyone bumps up. If I am moving a d man its Smith (value at all time low, so it woudl happen start of next season or anyone who takes a flyer on him). Hughes isnt here until end of next yr earliest if he stays like he says at Mich
29 avr. 2022 à 14 h 26
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okay so where do Hughes, Smith, Mukhamadullin, Vukojevic, Bahl and Okhotiuk play? Now I get maybe the Mukhamadullin and Vukojevic dont play in the NHL next year, but what about the other 4? Smith fills in for 3RD, then Hughes is stuck in college or the AHL and Bahl and Okhotiuk are nowhere. Seems like a few LD have to go because the future is (IMO) 1LD-Hughes, 2LD-Siegs and 3LD-Smith/Mukhamadullin


Both Luke Hughes and Mukhamadulkin have played almost exclusively RD over last two seasons.

Siegenthaler - LD
Severson - RD
Smith - LD/RD
Hamilton - RD
Okhotiuk - LD
Walsh - RD
Mukhamadullin - RD
Hughes - RD
Edwards - LD
Bahl - LD/RD
Vilen - LD
McCarthy - RD

Most these guys will be exempt from waivers for years. And many play both sides regularly.
29 avr. 2022 à 14 h 33
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Both Luke Hughes and Mukhamadulkin have played almost exclusively RD over last two seasons.

Siegenthaler - LD
Severson - RD
Smith - LD/RD
Hamilton - RD
Okhotiuk - LD
Walsh - RD
Mukhamadullin - RD
Hughes - RD
Edwards - LD
Bahl - LD/RD
Vilen - LD
McCarthy - RD

Most these guys will be exempt from waivers for years. And many play both sides regularly.


While I never really paid attention to it and really never noticed it (assuming you are telling the truth), it is incredibly rare for a team to be playing 2 left shot defenseman on the right side. Even 3 if you have smith there but obviously you got Dougie and Severson.

This is a good problem to have, but playing Hughes on the right side will really hurt is growth at the pro level
29 avr. 2022 à 14 h 36
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Dumba+25oa isn't enough for 6oa.
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29 avr. 2022 à 14 h 37
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While I never really paid attention to it and really never noticed it (assuming you are telling the truth), it is incredibly rare for a team to be playing 2 left shot defenseman on the right side. Even 3 if you have smith there but obviously you got Dougie and Severson.

This is a good problem to have, but playing Hughes on the right side will really hurt is growth at the pro level


The devils have won three cups.
1995: 6 LHD, 0 RHD
2000: 5 LHD, 1 RHD
2003: 5 LHD, 1 RHD

I think the righty/lefty thing gets overvalued. Devils have plenty of flexibility from both sides. They only need 1 LHD to play RD and chances are it won’t be the same guy every night.
29 avr. 2022 à 14 h 42
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The devils have won three cups.
1995: 6 LHD, 0 RHD
2000: 5 LHD, 1 RHD
2003: 5 LHD, 1 RHD

I think the righty/lefty thing gets overvalued. Devils have plenty of flexibility from both sides. They only need 1 LHD to play RD and chances are it won’t be the same guy every night.


2021 Tampa: 3 RD, 3LD
2020 Tampa: 3 RD 3LD
2019 Blues: 3RD 3LD
2018 Capitals: 3RD 3LD

I could keep going. This is what cup teams are doing. Makes no sense to do otherwise
 
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