Why would the Hawks do that?

More like why would Detroit do that? McCabe has no value to us. And Strome sure as hell isn't worth up to 4 equivalent 2nd round picks.

Detroit passes, McCabe has no value to us. And that's way too much for Strome. Stick with Ottawa as Detroit 100% passes.

McCabe is a top 4 cost controlled shut down dman with term. You are kidding right?

Also have you seen Strome recently? 20 points in last 15 games

And McCabe will also be 29 when the season starts, Hardly the right age for our young core. Would rather have Marcus Petterson who basically does the exact same thing and is 3 years younger. And who care if Strome has 20 points in 15 games so does Larkin players in their position are being paid to score.

McCabe is very good defensively. If you think he has no value then you are clueless.

Strome is very streaky. 21 points first 40 games / 20 points last 15 games. If Hawks are looking to rebuild I think they'd move on.

I said he has no value to us, Not that he doesn't have value. he's going to be 29 right before the season starts. he doesn't fit our young core. I would rather add a 25 year old Marcus Pettersson who basically does what McCabe does but only younger.

McCabe is better than Pettersson.

29 is too old lol? McCabe would be a good fit. Great vet to pair with a young d.

Yeah 29 is too old for a rebuilding team that's still 4-5 years away from making a serious run.

4-5 years!? That's crazy.

Who knows maybe Yzerman will target him if the Hawks decide to move him. Yzerman wants a Top 4 LD with term. And McCabe would be a good fit. He's only making $4,000,000 x 3 years so i guess it's not that bad. He actually might be the perfect partner for Seider.

Zero chance Detroit trades away futures and young players for older, more expensive players. The value isn't the problem, the fit is.

Also, Wallinder looks like he's going to be a stud, trading him away would be a bad idea...

Isn't that what you did with Leddy? Traded a 2nd for a vet d man.

You miss the point completely, idc whether its good or bad for Detroit. I never said if it was or wasn't. So if you want to argue McCabe's age being a bad fit then sure, but you originally called him "someone with zero value" which was fundementally wrong. To me, this is what the call "backpedaling."

Thats really odd that you bring up Larkin because despite going into a contract year I would consider him to be someone with more value than 4 2nds right now.

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He didn't say that the player had no value. He said that the player had no value to Detroit. Those two sentences have completely different meanings.

Besides, with Marcus Pettersson available much much cheaper than what you're asking for here it's not a hard choice, for Detroit, to decline this offer. Try a different team.

Maybe he is, maybe not. Hard to tell when one coach scratched him constantly and the other gave him and opportunity and he took it. He also only just turned 25 I would say he's at a perfectly fine age for their likely quick rebuild. Zibaneijad was the same age and that team was ina. Similar position

He did. He said McCabe had no value and then edited his comment.

What do you think Pettersson is gonna go for? Can't imagine you are going to get him cheap. D men with term are valuable.

Backup goalie??? What?

Leddy was a 30 year old d man with a 5.5M cap hit you traded futures for

You said, "Zero chance Detroit trades away futures and young players for older, more expensive players."

That's exactly what you did last year lol

PIT is forced to trade Pettersson (or Matheson), they're in cap hell and also have younger defenders losing their waiver exemption this summer and needs to be found roster spots. Pettersson will likely cost a 3rd round pick to acquire as will Schmidt in WPG.

Pens have 29M in cap space next year lol. Fifth most in the league.

If Pettersson is avaliable for that cheap there will be more teams interested in a young d man with term. I doubt it would be only a 3rd.

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Wtf are you talking about?

Who is even talking about a goalie? McCabe is a defenceman. Leddy is a defenceman.

Oh ****... I crossed up my threads and thought I was replying to the trade about Cam Talbot to Detroit... Egg on my face... I'll just show myself out now...