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Forum:
NHL Trades
19 sept. 2023 à 17 h 58
Sujet:
(VAN/MTL) - Pearson, 2025 3rd (VAN) for DeSmith
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>So Montreal gets a 3rd round pick + a LTIR player for our 3rd goalie who was cap dumped to us?
WENT WUGHES W</div></div>
He was traded because he can't be put on LTIR....
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NHL Signings
16 janv. 2023 à 21 h 21
Sujet:
Boston Bruins signed Pavel Zacha (4 Years / $4,750,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Newgod77</b></div><div>Zacha is better than all these players and is 25</div></div>
You say that now in hindsight. A lot of these guys were either a: better defensively b: better offensively than Zacha at the time of contract. Some were even younger.
*He'll be 26 when the contract starts
Forum:
NHL Signings
16 janv. 2023 à 13 h 16
Sujet:
Boston Bruins signed Pavel Zacha (4 Years / $4,750,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Newgod77</b></div><div>Not obvious. Some examples might have been helpful to get your point across</div></div>
Over the last few years of middle 6 guys that weren't good finishers
Tanner Pearson, Joel Armia, Paul Byron, Goodrow, Zack Smith, Berglund, Rask, Perrault, Faska, Dvorak, Beagle,
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NHL Signings
16 janv. 2023 à 12 h 17
Sujet:
Boston Bruins signed Pavel Zacha (4 Years / $4,750,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Newgod77</b></div><div>4 year deals never work out. Quite the take</div></div>
Pretty obvious that's not what I meant. Deals like this for middle 6 guys never work out. Bloats the cap and teams are looking to move them in 2 years.
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NHL Signings
14 janv. 2023 à 23 h 22
Sujet:
Boston Bruins signed Pavel Zacha (4 Years / $4,750,000 AAV)
Overpay. Deals like this never seem to work out.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 janv. 2023 à 12 h 0
Sujet:
Next year
Better off keeping Mitts
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Armchair-GM
14 janv. 2023 à 11 h 3
Sujet:
Timmins
Maybe 3rd or 4th
Forum:
NHL Trades
27 nov. 2022 à 3 h 1
Sujet:
(CGY/FLA) - Tkachuk for Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>Florida traded a #1 Defender & a Franchise level Winger & a 1st round pick for a Younger Franchise Winger that didn't want to resign.</div></div>
Florida traded a 28 year old top 4 defender that needs a big contract and a 29 year old franchise level winger that needs a big contract and 1st round pick for a 24 year old franchise winger in his prime that didn't want to resign.
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NHL Signings
3 sept. 2022 à 1 h 6
Sujet:
Vancouver Canucks signed J.T. Miller (7 Years / $8,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CSStrowbridge</b></div><div>You can say a lot of the same thing about the Gaudreau contract. Gaudreau only scored 5 more points over the last three seasons, but he is getting paid 20% more and is only 1 year younger at the time the contract kicks in. The Gaudreau contract is rated nearly 90% positive while this one is 40% positive. Nope. Not rational.</div></div>
They are quite different
1. JG isn't a big physical player. His style is the exact opposite of JTs. Guys that play like JG usually age pretty well.
2. JG has been elite since he's been 22. Miller has only really started playing great 3 years ago.
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NHL Signings
2 sept. 2022 à 23 h 46
Sujet:
Vancouver Canucks signed J.T. Miller (7 Years / $8,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GenericUsername489</b></div><div>I can't believe there are so many people voting no. He's been Vancouver's best player since his arrival and they are likely a playoff team this season. This is a steal.</div></div>
His deal doesn't kick in until he's 30 years old. You're not paying him when he's in his prime. You're paying him past his prime. He's a big physical player. Those guys don't age well. If he was 24 years old it would be a steal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 juill. 2022 à 15 h 2
Sujet:
Sabres Surprise
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>thewookie1</b></div><div>Buffalo isn't trading Girgs, also why do we have 4 goalies?</div></div>
Better trading him instead of having him as the 13th forward.
Brossoit is a cap dump
UPL/Craig Anderson are hurt often
Forum:
Mock-Draft
4 juill. 2022 à 21 h 7
Sujet:
2019 redraft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockey1340</b></div><div>Take a look at who’s matthews and McDavid’s #1 dman is. I wonder why they can’t win. Also, take a look at the #1 dman for the past couple Stanley cup winners:
Makar
Hedman
Hedman
Etc
In the playoffs you truly want a #1 dman. That’s how you win</div></div>
Those 3 teams also had top line elite centers lol.
MacKinnon
Point
Point
Tampa couldn't win in the postseason until Point became the top center
"In the playoffs you truly want a #1 dman. That’s how you win" You could say look at Nashville with Roman Josi and they can never win. Look at Rangers with Fox and they choked hard in the playoffs. Erik Karlsson didn't win anything. It's a team game. An elite center is the most important piece though. To win you'd probably want both.
Penguins won the cup with Dumo as their top d man against a team that had Roman Josi.
They won because of Crosby. That's what you need to win. A top center. No team can win without one.
Best center in the league McDavid vs. best d man in the league Makar
Everyone is taking McDavid.
Forum:
Mock-Draft
4 juill. 2022 à 20 h 47
Sujet:
2019 redraft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockey1340</b></div><div>Would you rather have MacKinnon or Makar?</div></div>
Would you rather have McDavid or Makar?
Would you rather have Matthews or Makar?
Forum:
Mock-Draft
4 juill. 2022 à 20 h 5
Sujet:
2019 redraft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockey1340</b></div><div>Imagine putting Seider behind Zegras when Seider beat him out for Calder. I’m okay with Hughes 1st still but Zegras over Seider is laughable</div></div>
A top line center > top defenceman
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 mai 2022 à 18 h 43
Sujet:
Vegas next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tjm220</b></div><div>Brossoit makes as much money as all three of the guys you mentioned to put together. A fifth round pick is not nearly enough to take on a goaltender whose contract you can only bury half of if he continues to play like crap. Buffalo isn’t in the business of doing Vegas any favors. If Vegas can offer the Sabres something they want we can start the conversation there. Buffalo doesn’t have to look far for AHL caliber goaltending, and it will cost less too.</div></div>
> Brossoit makes as much money as all three of the guys you mentioned to put together
I mean he's better than all three guys too.
> Buffalo isn’t in the business of doing Vegas any favors
Why would it matter? They are a western team. Who cares? You get a pick similar to the amount of money that you got from Butcher. Sabres have so much space and it's only a 1 year deal.
> half of if he continues to play like crap.
He's more slightly below average than crap
> Buffalo doesn’t have to look far for AHL caliber goaltending, and it will cost less too.
Aaron Dell is AHL goaltending and he's far worse than Brossoit, Brossoit is NHL backup goaltending.
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Armchair-GM
16 mai 2022 à 8 h 41
Sujet:
Vegas next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tjm220</b></div><div>Sure, it would be nice to have a third NHL capable goaltender in your organization. Brossoit is not an NHL capable goaltender, but he is overpaid. Buffalo can throw a dart at the names in free agency and find a better goaltender who costs less.</div></div>
Brossoit isn't great, but he still would've been the best goalie analytically on your roster excluding UPL. Better than Tokarski, Dell, and Anderson. He's a perfectly capable backup goalie. You'd also be getting a pick to take him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 mai 2022 à 4 h 5
Sujet:
Vegas next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Buffalove</b></div><div>Sabres pass
We’re looking for a “1a” goalie, not a backup or “1b” type
Especially not one coming off a below .900save% season
We’ve got a young guy (UPL) coming up next season to fill
that role</div></div>
UPL never seems to be healthy. Doesn't hurt to have 3+ capable NHL goaltenders on the roster.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 mai 2022 à 17 h 59
Sujet:
First off-season look
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Knuckl3s</b></div><div>Is that a joke? Cause Vegas ain't even in the playoffs</div></div>
You realize VGKs whole team was injured right?
Eichel still played really good.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 mai 2022 à 1 h 28
Sujet:
First off-season look
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>i dont believe the wild will ever be a true cup contending threat until they stop pretending that middle six centers are capable in the 1C spot. They need a true 1C. They can't just simply bet that Rossi is that guy and have no other plan.</div></div>
Should've traded for Eichel
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 avr. 2022 à 19 h 22
Sujet:
Sabres 2022-2023
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>That's probably fair value or close to it, but if the Jets still have Scheifele they have no reason to look for anything like that.
Teams would easily pay a late first, and probably a first plus (granted the first is later) for a similar rental at the TDL, so for two years, it's not an outrageous ask.</div></div>
That would be fair value if Zibs was signed long term, but for 2 years you'd be getting fleeced. I don't think any team would do that. A blue chip young guy + a high first + for a guy that can walk in 2 years.
That would be more than any player has gotten recently in a trade under similar circumstances.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 avr. 2022 à 18 h 59
Sujet:
Sabres 2022-2023
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Kuznetsov is a terrible comparable. He's only been point per game or close to it in 3 of the last 6 years and has a horrible contract. Scheifele has been PPG 6 straight years, including his bad year this season and is almost $1.7 mil/season less.
Scheifele is unquestionably better.</div></div>
Scheifele is better but Kuz is not that far off. Kuz has more term, while Scheifele is cheaper. You are never going to get a perfect comparison.
I was going to say Zibs but he's signed long term now.
How about would you do Perfetti + 13th pick as a starting point for 2 years of Zibs at 6.1M?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 avr. 2022 à 18 h 12
Sujet:
Sabres 2022-2023
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TuckerPoolman</b></div><div>id say he’s still in his prime and has been ppg his entire career. will have 2 years left at a steal of a cap hit. it will give a contending team 2 very series shots at winning the cup, I think that’s pretty valuable.
would have to start with Cozens and Vegas 22’ first for BUF or the jets will just keep him or trade elsewhere</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Really, the Jets couldn't get a 2nd pair caliber RHD for Scheifele? A PPG center signed for 2 years $6.125M has gotta be worth at least that.</div></div>
A contending team isn't gonna move a legit top 4 RD or top 6 C for a guy that's older and isn't signed long term. That's just not gonna happen. They want to add to their team. It would be picks + prospects.
Would you do Perfetti + 13th pick for Kuznetsov?
If you do move on from him the summer I feel like you're gonna be disappointed.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 avr. 2022 à 17 h 13
Sujet:
Sabres 2022-2023
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>If Scheifele moves out the Jets would need a top 6 center, preferably right shot, coming back or a top 4 right shot, RHD coming back.
Either young roster players or prospects that have the potential to fill that bill.</div></div>
I just don't think you're gonna get either a legit top 6 C or top 4 RD coming back if you move him. Maybe if he was younger & signed long term.
Ryan Johnson does have top 4D potential though. He's a lefty but has played RD in college. He's a good prospect.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 avr. 2022 à 16 h 41
Sujet:
Sabres 2022-2023
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Johnson and Mittlestadt don't fill any needs for the Jets. Winnipeg says no.</div></div>
What are your needs?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 avr. 2022 à 17 h 47
Sujet:
Flames next year Johnny walks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div> Huge difference? It would be a 600k difference and that doesnt even account for them being paid in USD while living in Canada. You overblow the income tax thing Duchene and Bob both signed what are considered overpayments in their respective no state tax teams.</div></div>
My armchair GM has 21 players. Teams usually carry 22 so they'd still be over the cap or right at the cap.
Yes it's a huge difference from Tampa to Calgary. Losing out on 600k is a big deal lol. It's not overblown. It's why players usually put California teams + Canadian teams on their no trade lists. Bobby Ryan & Marc Methot did a good podcast about NTCs.
Was Duchene seen as an overpay? It was considered a pretty good deal at the time. You can look back at the CapFriendly post and a lot of people were saying steal and that he took less. Remember this was pre-covid. https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/245886 A lot of people expected 9Mish.
Nobody said low tax teams never overpay guys, it's just players are going to keep more of their money. If you want to project Tkachuk's next contract look at Ottawa & Toronto for comparisons instead of Tampa & Florida. He's gonna want more than just his QO that's only 700k more than his brother got.
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