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Créé par: Kyle_Okposo_Lover

Équipe: 2022-23 Islanders de New York

Date de création initiale: 28 mars 2022

Publié: 28 mars 2022

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Again, WIld have so much dead cap with Parise and Suter buyouts so they have to move Fiala. Retained Bailey is an obvious downgrade but teams are very stupid. Kinda doubt Minnesota does this but it is out of conference so you never know. Ive seen so many WIld fans doing similar trades soooooo

Varlamov value seems about right IMO

I really want Soucy for LD2 with Dobson. I think it may be an overpay but I realllllly want him

Arizona wont be able to sign anyone so they take Panik for future considerations

Lee-Brock-Beau: it has worked very well. Keep it.
Fiala-Barzal-Wahly: Barzal-Wahly has looked good and Fiala will really boost it.
Parise-JG-Palms: Jg-Palms is good and Parise will fit in
Bellows/Martin/Johnston-Cizikas-Clutter/Martin/Johnston is whatever. Trotz is annoying

Pelech-Pulock: DUH
Soucy-Dobby: Yes
Salo-Mayfield: Riikola can shift in for Salo. Salo should play 40-50 games.

Sorokin-55-60 games
Holtby-20-30

No room for Raty yet unfortunately. Part 3 will have him. Either LIIGA again or AHL with some NHL time for injuries. Our AHL team sucks though.

That COL First has same protections.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Dobson, Noah	3	5 150 000 $
Salo, Robin	2	925 000 $
Bellows, Kieffer	1	925 500 $
Fiala, Kevin	5	7 610 028 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Holtby, Braden		1	2 150 000 $
Riikola, Juuso		1	850 000 $

Transactions

NYI

Fiala, Kevin [Droits de RFA]

MIN

Bailey, Josh (1 100 000 $ retained)
Bolduc, Samuel
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYI)

Détails additionnels:

DRAFT DAY:
Pick is 11th to 16th overall pick.

Fiala is a RFA. They have no cap to sign him. I saw someone else have a similar trade to this. i dont think Bailey's value is negative because teams are stupid and he has a solid amount of points :|

NYI

Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)

COL

Varlamov, Semyon
Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (NYI)

Détails additionnels:

Lose Kuemper to FA. Getting another goalie like last season

NYI

Soucy, Carson
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CGY)

SEA

Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (NYI)

Détails additionnels:

SEA recieves worse of NYI First and COL First Round Pick. If both are top 16, they receive unprotected 2024 NYI First

NYI

ARI

Pánik, Richard

Détails additionnels:

Nothing. They need roster players

Rachats de contrats

Rick DiPietro: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Josh Bailey: 1 100 000 $ (0%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
2024

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	81 700 491 $	245 796 $	1 287 500 $	-200 491 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Lee, Anders 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AG NTC UFA - 4	Nelson, Brock 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ C, AG M-NTC UFA - 3	Beauvillier, Anthony 4 150 000 $4 150 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Fiala, Kevin 7 610 028 $7 610 028 $ AD, AG UFA - 7	Barzal, Mathew 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Wahlstrom, Oliver 894 167 $894 167 $ (537 500 $$538K) AD RFA - 1
Parise, Zach 750 000 $750 000 $ (750 000 $$750K) AG UFA - 1	Pageau, Jean-Gabriel 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 4	Palmieri, Kyle 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AD, AG NTC UFA - 3
Bellows, Kieffer 925 500 $925 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Cizikas, Casey 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ C UFA - 5	Clutterbuck, Cal 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ AD UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Pelech, Adam 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 7	Pulock, Ryan 6 150 000 $6 150 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 8	Sorokin, Ilya 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ G UFA - 2
Soucy, Carson 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Dobson, Noah 5 150 000 $5 150 000 $ DD RFA - 3
Salo, Robin 925 000 $925 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Mayfield, Scott 1 450 000 $1 450 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Holtby, Braden 2 150 000 $2 150 000 $ G UFA

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Martin, Matt 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Riikola, Juuso 850 000 $850 000 $ DG UFA
Johnston, Ross 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG UFA - 4

28 mars 2022 à 10 h 59

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avs pass.

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28 mars 2022 à 11 h 1

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Quoting: DirtyDangle

avs pass.

thanks for the thoughtful comment. Why do you say? losing Kuemper to FA forces them to go after a 1A goalie. late late 1st for a starter and 3rd is solid

28 mars 2022 à 11 h 4

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Can't see Sakic paying yet another 1st for a goalie; he should be able to re-sign Kuemper

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28 mars 2022 à 11 h 7

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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom

thanks for the thoughtful comment. Why do you say? losing Kuemper to FA forces them to go after a 1A goalie. late late 1st for a starter and 3rd is solid

With all due respect, Minnesota isn't taking on Josh Bailey. That whole made up rumor by one source was debunked a long time ago. Our gm also isn't dumb, or stupid. In fact, he doesn't make deals like that. He held out for Fleury until Chicago basically agreed to 2nd round pick which won't become a 1st unless Minnesota goes to conference final. So in terms of what you said, 30 terms would have an interest, sl he wouldn't be desperate

28 mars 2022 à 11 h 12

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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom

thanks for the thoughtful comment. Why do you say? losing Kuemper to FA forces them to go after a 1A goalie. late late 1st for a starter and 3rd is solid

avs should be able to re-sign kuemper but
1. varly isn't worth it
2. there are other options.
3. the 1st can be used at the deadline for another asset.

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28 mars 2022 à 11 h 15

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Quoting: Carson

Not really. The Wild are getting destroyed next season and the year after from the buyouts. almost no chance Fiala is on the team next year unless he takes a HUGE pay cut. The WIld are quite stupid IMO. Shouldve just paid a first to offload one of the deals instead of buying out both. HUGE deadcap with them now.

Ive seen tons of wild fans recently go after Bailey. And yes his RAPM charts, WAR, xWAR. GF, GA, xGA etc are all pretty below average, he has a solid point production and is better than anyone else you can get for cheap and only 3.9 mil. Plus a mid first in a good draft is a very solid move IMO

28 mars 2022 à 11 h 16

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Quoting: DirtyDangle

avs should be able to re-sign kuemper but
1. varly isn't worth it
2. there are other options.
3. the 1st can be used at the deadline for another asset.

Avs tend to make their moves in the offseason
That is a very fair deal
This is assuming Kuemper leaves. Use context bro

28 mars 2022 à 11 h 19

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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom

According to you wild are stupid? You really don't know why Guerin bought out suter and Parise. All wild fans are cool with it. They aren't taking on Josh Bailey. Ottawa is very interested in him. Other teams are as well. There are a bunch of teams who will be interested. This summer of wingers, a bunch of good ones that will seek a new home. So Minnesota can sign any of them and trade Fiala before hand. No wild fans have gone after Bailey, it's been islanders fans, so you are lying about that.

28 mars 2022 à 11 h 34

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The Avs have $26M in cap space and gave up a 1st and Timmins for Kuemper they aren’t losing him in free agency.

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28 mars 2022 à 11 h 39

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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom

Avs tend to make their moves in the offseason
That is a very fair deal
This is assuming Kuemper leaves. Use context bro

not sure where you got the notion that avs make their moves in the offseason when they were just one of the biggest deadline buyers.

this deal isn't fair. a oft-injured 34 year old goalie who's been playing backup and only posted a .913 on a trotz team isn't worth a 2023 1st. maybe avs 2023 1st + johnson for varly. that's something i'd consider.

ok so if kuemper leaves there is still fluery + other trade options.

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28 mars 2022 à 11 h 44

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Quoting: Carson

which forward can they sign for under 4 mil? realistically

28 mars 2022 à 11 h 44

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I get this supposes that Kuemper leaves, but I doubt that happens.

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28 mars 2022 à 11 h 45

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Quoting: DirtyDangle

varlamov was hurt to start the year + SV% isnt a good stat. also a vezina finalist and was 2nd in GSAX last season.

And Johnson aint waiving his NMC while id do that too.

28 mars 2022 à 11 h 45

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Quoting: Nqutilus

I get this supposes that Kuemper leaves, but I doubt that happens.

correct

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28 mars 2022 à 11 h 59

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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom

varlamov was hurt to start the year + SV% isnt a good stat. also a vezina finalist and was 2nd in GSAX last season.

And Johnson aint waiving his NMC while id do that too.

yea like i said varly would be 34 and comes with injury problems. i disagree i think sv% is a good stat. i'm more concerned about what varly did this year than what he did in the past.

ej only has a 13 team ntc. so isles could very well be one of the other 19 teams.

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28 mars 2022 à 12 h 11

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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom

which forward can they sign for under 4 mil? realistically

If Fiala decides to take 5-6mil, Minnesota can make it work. And there's also a bunch of wings thus free agency who are seeking a new home.

28 mars 2022 à 12 h 32

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Quoting: Carson

If Fiala decides to take 5-6mil, Minnesota can make it work. And there's also a bunch of wings thus free agency who are seeking a new home.

No offense but fiala isnt taking 5-6m. Hes looking for at least 7+

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28 mars 2022 à 13 h 34

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If Fiala decides to take 5-6mil, Minnesota can make it work. And there's also a bunch of wings thus free agency who are seeking a new home.

no chance he takes so little

29 mars 2022 à 15 h 18

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I am undoubtedly going to be in the minority on this and probably made fun of to some extent but Josh Bailey gets a seriously bad rap. Is he as good as his draft status? Of course not. Did the Islanders grossly mismanage him at the start of his career? Absolutely. But sometimes players take longer to develop; player development isn't linear. And because he's a lead by example, quieter dude that doesn't show a ton of emotion people RAIL on him and most of it is unwarranted. Has he had the best year? No. But he's not terrible. He's exactly what Barry Trotz wants him to be: reliable, defensively responsible and a passer. Josh Bailey is probably the second-best passer on the team behind Barzal. He's best suited as a third-line winger that can move up to the second line when necessary; so that's to say he's a great 3rd line winger and a fine/good enough second-line winger. He kills penalties and is a 200-foot player. I don't think Bailey is going to get traded in the offseason; he's valuable to Trotz.

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