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D for today Goalie for tomorrow

Créé par: tmlduda
Publié: 15 mars 2022 à 11 h 19
Plafond salarial: 81 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 45/200 (23%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Ducks d'AnaheimDucks d'Anaheim

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Lindholm, HampusDucks d'AnaheimLNH20%4 200 000 $011---6051722--
Gibson, JohnDucks d'AnaheimLNH-6 400 000 $011-------0.030.001
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Mrázek, PetrMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-3 800 000 $011-------0.030.001
Dermott, TravisMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-1 500 000 $011---42145--
Robertson, NicholasExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoMineures-0 $011---7101--
Duszak, JosephExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoMineures-0 $011---0000--
Mikheyev, IlyaMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-1 645 000 $011---3010515--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---100------
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial0 $2245643611
Variation3 655 000 $133110
Final3 655 000 $ (↑)23 (↑)48 (↑)67 (↑)4 (↑)7 (↑)117-8-1

Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoMaple Leafs de Toronto

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Mrázek, PetrMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-3 800 000 $011-------0.030.001
Dermott, TravisMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-1 500 000 $011---42145--
Robertson, NicholasExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoMineures-0 $011---7101--
Duszak, JosephExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoMineures-0 $011---0000--
Mikheyev, IlyaMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-1 645 000 $011---3010515--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---100------
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Lindholm, HampusDucks d'AnaheimLNH20%4 200 000 $011---6051722--
Gibson, JohnDucks d'AnaheimLNH-6 400 000 $011-------0.030.001
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial3 765 833 $234769358
Variation-3 655 000 $-1-3-3-1-10
Final110 833 $ (↓)22 (↓)44 (↓)66 (↓)2 (↓)4 (↓)8-781
15 mars 2022 à 11 h 25
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Let's not ruin a good relationship with an offer like this.
The only value here are the 2 picks and Robertson, and that wouldn't get Gibson by himself, but it would be an overpayment for Lindholm on his own.
15 mars 2022 à 11 h 59
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Let's not ruin a good relationship with an offer like this.
The only value here are the 2 picks and Robertson, and that wouldn't get Gibson by himself, but it would be an overpayment for Lindholm on his own.


This is true
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15 mars 2022 à 12 h 10
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Quoting: Dutchies
Let's not ruin a good relationship with an offer like this.
The only value here are the 2 picks and Robertson, and that wouldn't get Gibson by himself, but it would be an overpayment for Lindholm on his own.


Yes but I will grudgingly allow it
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15 mars 2022 à 12 h 59
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Quoting: Dutchies
Let's not ruin a good relationship with an offer like this.
The only value here are the 2 picks and Robertson, and that wouldn't get Gibson by himself, but it would be an overpayment for Lindholm on his own.


Yeah, I kinda figured, but also thought there was a framework here to work off of. Honestly Anaheim is doing Gibson a disservice by keeping him, they won't be close to winning any time soon and hes in his prime. Might be something there to work off of.
15 mars 2022 à 14 h 10
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Yeah, I kinda figured, but also thought there was a framework here to work off of. Honestly Anaheim is doing Gibson a disservice by keeping him, they won't be close to winning any time soon and hes in his prime. Might be something there to work off of.


I think they're closer than you think. This team is going to be very good very soon, but in order to do that, they need a solid base in goal.
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16 mars 2022 à 2 h 17
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Quoting: tmlduda
Yeah, I kinda figured, but also thought there was a framework here to work off of. Honestly Anaheim is doing Gibson a disservice by keeping him, they won't be close to winning any time soon and hes in his prime. Might be something there to work off of.


I'm a Ducks fan and this is an unpopular take that I agree with. Stolarz looks good enough to hold down the fort until Dostal is ready anyways. I'd be super happy to move the two players you have the Ducks giving up here, but I think the package is really lacking considering Toronto is receiving a dman who can reliably play 1st line minutes, a legit starting goalie with term, and dump the Mrazek contract. Maybe something including Robertson, Liljegren, and some high end draft capital
16 mars 2022 à 2 h 21
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Quoting: Dutchies
I think they're closer than you think. This team is going to be very good very soon, but in order to do that, they need a solid base in goal.


As a Ducks fan, we're not THAT close. We have most of the pieces, but they're almost all too young (Drysdale, McTavish, Zellweger, Lacomb, Dostal, Perreault, Tracey, Pastujov and now Helleson). 3 years away from seriously contending, maybe 1-2 away from playoffs
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16 mars 2022 à 9 h 33
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As a Ducks fan, we're not THAT close. We have most of the pieces, but they're almost all too young (Drysdale, McTavish, Zellweger, Lacomb, Dostal, Perreault, Tracey, Pastujov and now Helleson). 3 years away from seriously contending, maybe 1-2 away from playoffs


My feeling was 1-2 years for playoff contention. But you watch them on a daily basis, so I'll take your word for it. I know of 7-8 teams that would pay handsomely for Gibson
16 mars 2022 à 12 h 4
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Quoting: Dutchies
My feeling was 1-2 years for playoff contention. But you watch them on a daily basis, so I'll take your word for it. I know of 7-8 teams that would pay handsomely for Gibson


If we're just talking getting into playoffs and maybe winning a round or two, I think we're on exactly the same page. But being at the level that a team like Colorado, Carolina, Florida, Tampa etc to really contend for the cup is another year or two beyond just squeakaing into playoffs (and requires some development luck with the kids).

I do think I'm a Ducks outlier in that I'm in favor of moving Gibson. The way I see it he's already 28 and in his prime, so if we won't be seriously contending until 3 seasons from now, I'd want to get some good value for him while we still can. I'd likely feel differently if we didn't have someone reliable to step in with Stolarz, and a strong prospect in the pipeline with Dostal, but since we do I'd prefer the prospects/draft capital.
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16 mars 2022 à 12 h 6
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
This is true


Landro I know you're a big Ducks fan and have a level headed perspective. Curious what you think about my conversation above to Dutchies ^
 
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