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Marino Boeser

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Date de création initiale: 9 mars 2022
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9 mars 2022 à 18 h 38
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Oof I’d do this in a heartbeat but there’s no way Pens do that
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9 mars 2022 à 18 h 45
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I mean, the Canucks accept...
9 mars 2022 à 18 h 53
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That’s awful for us
9 mars 2022 à 18 h 55
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That’s awful for us


How? We need players that can score and Marino has been just alright, but hasn't taken the next step. Rodrigues has been ice cold as well recently. I don't really see this hurting us.
9 mars 2022 à 19 h 10
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How? We need players that can score and Marino has been just alright, but hasn't taken the next step. Rodrigues has been ice cold as well recently. I don't really see this hurting us.


Yeah and if Letang gets hurt Luke Schenn and Chad Ruhwedel are your top pair and 2nd pair RHD. God save Jarry and DeSmith from getting absolutely lit up like Christmas trees…even with Letang in lol
9 mars 2022 à 19 h 19
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Quoting: Pensfan89
Yeah and if Letang gets hurt Luke Schenn and Chad Ruhwedel are your top pair and 2nd pair RHD. God save Jarry and DeSmith from getting absolutely lit up like Christmas trees…even with Letang in lol


If Letang gets hurt its over anyway. Take out Rodrigues and add some retention by van on Boeser and it's pretty close I think
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9 mars 2022 à 19 h 36
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So if you’re getting Boeser, you’re willing to qualify him over the summer? If that’s the case, Rust is gone, it’s gonna be tougher to resign both Malkin and Letang, and Marino is a good dman with term at a manageable cap hit, why would trade him and then replace him with Schenn, doesn’t make sense.
9 mars 2022 à 19 h 38
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So if you’re getting Boeser, you’re willing to qualify him over the summer? If that’s the case, Rust is gone, it’s gonna be tougher to resign both Malkin and Letang, and Marino is a good dman with term at a manageable cap hit, why would trade him and then replace him with Schenn, doesn’t make sense.


Dreger has just said that if the Canucks don't trade him they have a contract in mind and it's under the QO, I'm assuming the same contract would carry over to Pittsburgh if he's traded.
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9 mars 2022 à 19 h 45
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Dreger has just said that if the Canucks don't trade him they have a contract in mind and it's under the QO, I'm assuming the same contract would carry over to Pittsburgh if he's traded.


But that doesn’t mean Boeser is signing it
9 mars 2022 à 19 h 49
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But that doesn’t mean Boeser is signing it


This is a mutual understanding on the contract between the Canucks and Boeser's agent. Obviously, nothing is set in stone but it seems like there's pretty good understanding on what he's signing for
9 mars 2022 à 19 h 57
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This is a mutual understanding on the contract between the Canucks and Boeser's agent. Obviously, nothing is set in stone but it seems like there's pretty good understanding on what he's signing for


If that’s the case then you’re okay with giving up Rust? Malkin and Letang are gonna command some term. Plus Jarry is gonna cash in 1yr after this season. They’re not gonna have much cap space.
9 mars 2022 à 20 h 17
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If that’s the case then you’re okay with giving up Rust? Malkin and Letang are gonna command some term. Plus Jarry is gonna cash in 1yr after this season. They’re not gonna have much cap space.


Letang is most likely leaving anyways. I want to keep him and Rust, but they will likely get huge paydays elsewhere. 1/3 of them, probably Malkin will come back, at most 2/3 of them. If we lose in first round though I'd be shocked if more than 1 come back.
9 mars 2022 à 20 h 20
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Quoting: BigShoots
If Letang gets hurt its over anyway. Take out Rodrigues and add some retention by van on Boeser and it's pretty close I think


Not really. They’ve won without Letang before but they had a competent 2nd pair.
9 mars 2022 à 20 h 23
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Not really. They’ve won without Letang before but they had a competent 2nd pair.


If we can win without Letang, I'm sure Marino leaving won't destroy our chances at winning a cup. If Letang gets hurt and Marino is gone then yeah were in trouble, but I wouldn't not make a trade based on that. I would rather take that chance because if we don't trade for better wingers we are one and done anyways.
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9 mars 2022 à 20 h 27
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If we can win without Letang, I'm sure Marino leaving won't destroy our chances at winning a cup. If Letang gets hurt and Marino is gone then yeah were in trouble, but I wouldn't not make a trade based on that. I would rather take that chance because if we don't trade for better wingers we are one and done anyways.


Way to cherry pick the comment. Key words “we had a competent 2nd pair”. Schenn, Ruhwedel, or Myers as the 2nd pair defenseman make that 2nd pair way worse. And all gm’s make trades and fill their roster based on that premise. It’s insane not to lol.
9 mars 2022 à 20 h 33
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Way to cherry pick the comment. Key words “we had a competent 2nd pair”. Schenn, Ruhwedel, or Myers as the 2nd pair defenseman make that 2nd pair way worse. And all gm’s make trades and fill their roster based on that premise. It’s insane not to lol.


We are stacked on the left side, I would take my chances with that as opposed to rolling the same forwards out when only Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, and Rust can score. When we only have one line scoring other teams can shut it down and then we are done. This team is worse than the team we went into the playoffs with last year, so unless we make changes we do not have a legit shot at the cup. Could even try and trade Kapanen for another D. Regardless, we have to update our forwards and if it takes trading Marino I think its worth it.
9 mars 2022 à 20 h 37
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We are stacked on the left side, I would take my chances with that as opposed to rolling the same forwards out when only Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, and Rust can score. When we only have one line scoring other teams can shut it down and then we are done. This team is worse than the team we went into the playoffs with last year, so unless we make changes we do not have a legit shot at the cup. Could even try and trade Kapanen for another D. Regardless, we have to update our forwards and if it takes trading Marino I think its worth it.


Ok we are stacked on the left side. So teams will know to attack us on the right side lol. Right so if the team can’t score, one guy ain’t gonna make a difference and I’d rather have a defense that doesn’t suck than one that’s vulnerable. I mean continue. You are just making the case even better for why you keep Marino and not trade him for one of vancouvers forwards. Its not like Boeser is lighting it up at an extraordinary pace either. He’s got what? 7 more points than Kapanen lol
9 mars 2022 à 20 h 41
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Ok we are stacked on the left side. So teams will know to attack us on the right side lol. Right so if the team can’t score, one guy ain’t gonna make a difference and I’d rather have a defense that doesn’t suck than one that’s vulnerable. I mean continue. You are just making the case even better for why you keep Marino and not trade him for one of vancouvers forwards. Its not like Boeser is lighting it up at an extraordinary pace either. He’s got what? 7 more points than Kapanen lol


I don't care if we swap for someone who is struggling, we need a change. Anything is better at this point than Kapanen, Simon, and other players who have not produced at all. Trade for Rakell, Boeser, and then bring in a D to replace Marino. We can afford to make 2 trades. I'm not saying this is the only route to go with my thread, but it is an option I don't mind. We need to at least make a trade and then bring up guys from Wilkes Barre. If you really don't want to trade Marino then trade the first to get Rakell. I'm not trying to discredit you, but this is just my opinion that I would not mind trading Marino for Boeser. What do you propose we do then to solve our issues? What changes would you make before the playoffs? Maybe we can find common ground with another approach, but I don't think we can just go in without change.
9 mars 2022 à 20 h 48
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I don't care if we swap for someone who is struggling, we need a change. Anything is better at this point than Kapanen, Simon, and other players who have not produced at all. Trade for Rakell, Boeser, and then bring in a D to replace Marino. We can afford to make 2 trades. I'm not saying this is the only route to go with my thread, but it is an option I don't mind. We need to at least make a trade and then bring up guys from Wilkes Barre. If you really don't want to trade Marino then trade the first to get Rakell. I'm not trying to discredit you, but this is just my opinion that I would not mind trading Marino for Boeser. What do you propose we do then to solve our issues? What changes would you make before the playoffs? Maybe we can find common ground with another approach, but I don't think we can just go in without change.


Ok great, swap Kapanen and ERod for Boeser then. You’re trading a solid top 4 RHD for someone who hasn’t played much better than Kapanen. I agree with you that guys like Kapanen, ERod, Simon need to either step up or step out for someone new but trading good players for other struggling players to replace them and only trading our original struggling players for picks doesn’t help a contending team lol. Especially considering we can’t afford Boeser next year anyway regardless. His QO is 7.5 million. He did that for a reason. To get him to UFA sooner. No way the pens QO him and I doubt he’d be willing to take an actual fair contract. He wants paid Rust type money. I’d rather just pay Rust and trade Kapanen for Zacha or Comtois type of a trade. Or maybe see if Seattle would be interested in Kapanen and a prospect for Eberle. They get the younger players and less cap hit. We get the scorer. It makes more sense to go that route.
I’d also be ok trading a prospect/pick for Rakell.
10 mars 2022 à 8 h 39
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Ok great, swap Kapanen and ERod for Boeser then. You’re trading a solid top 4 RHD for someone who hasn’t played much better than Kapanen. I agree with you that guys like Kapanen, ERod, Simon need to either step up or step out for someone new but trading good players for other struggling players to replace them and only trading our original struggling players for picks doesn’t help a contending team lol. Especially considering we can’t afford Boeser next year anyway regardless. His QO is 7.5 million. He did that for a reason. To get him to UFA sooner. No way the pens QO him and I doubt he’d be willing to take an actual fair contract. He wants paid Rust type money. I’d rather just pay Rust and trade Kapanen for Zacha or Comtois type of a trade. Or maybe see if Seattle would be interested in Kapanen and a prospect for Eberle. They get the younger players and less cap hit. We get the scorer. It makes more sense to go that route.
I’d also be ok trading a prospect/pick for Rakell.


I watched the Canucks game last night, Boeser was miles better than Kapanen, at least in this one. Kapanen is a non factor offensively and constantly turning the puck over. Boeser was all over the net, constantly with scoring chances and swarming the other team. Even when he wasn't scoring he was frustrating the other team and played a huge factor on almost every one of his shifts.
11 mars 2022 à 18 h 47
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How? We need players that can score and Marino has been just alright, but hasn't taken the next step. Rodrigues has been ice cold as well recently. I don't really see this hurting us.


We need a winger for sure and I’m not against trading Marino in the offseason. Trading him before the postseason is nuts
 
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